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No Plans to Implement More attacks on Rivina!

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Lurnn

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Slicer
Considering rivina fights have shown that they can last as long as actual conquest lately I feel as two fights would be a bit much personally

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FoxyBearGames

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Guardian
After some discussion in the last LCR meeting we came to the conclusion that more attacks on Rivina isn't actually a great solution to the problem of Rivina, which is ultimately the lack of attacks. Adding more attacks wouldn't accomplish much as people aren't attacking on it every single day to begin with. I think that the more effective solution to lack of fighting would be to give more uses for CP, which would then entice people to use Rivina more in the first place as simply letting people attack more isn't going to make them attack more.
 

PartayArc

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Sentry
I think that the more effective solution to lack of fighting would be to give more uses for CP, which would then entice people to use Rivina more in the first place as simply letting people attack more isn't going to make them attack more.
Yes and Rivina’s upset value isn’t that big!
 

ThePigGang

Well-Known Member
Guardian
After some discussion in the last LCR meeting we came to the conclusion that more attacks on Rivina isn't actually a great solution to the problem of Rivina, which is ultimately the lack of attacks. Adding more attacks wouldn't accomplish much as people aren't attacking on it every single day to begin with. I think that the more effective solution to lack of fighting would be to give more uses for CP, which would then entice people to use Rivina more in the first place as simply letting people attack more isn't going to make them attack more.
There have been rivi fights almost daily for the past week and probably longer then that I just haven't checked.

https://eldritchbot.com/fight?id=r1MN4h4J$
https://eldritchbot.com/fight?id=rkZrsVzJO
https://eldritchbot.com/fight?id=Bk@sfalJu
https://eldritchbot.com/fight?id=Hkrm55k1$
https://eldritchbot.com/fight?id=SJJtpB0Rv
https://eldritchbot.com/fight?id=S17AOT2Rv
https://eldritchbot.com/fight?id=HyyveijAD
https://eldritchbot.com/fight?id=SytDfI9CD


I can assure you that Requiem isn't gonna stop placing and im confident BITS wont be either. Rivi is enticing enough as there is fights there daily.
 

FoxyBearGames

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Guardian
There have been rivi fights almost daily for the past week and probably longer then that I just haven't checked.

https://eldritchbot.com/fight?id=r1MN4h4J$
https://eldritchbot.com/fight?id=rkZrsVzJO
https://eldritchbot.com/fight?id=Bk@sfalJu
https://eldritchbot.com/fight?id=Hkrm55k1$
https://eldritchbot.com/fight?id=SJJtpB0Rv
https://eldritchbot.com/fight?id=S17AOT2Rv
https://eldritchbot.com/fight?id=HyyveijAD
https://eldritchbot.com/fight?id=SytDfI9CD


I can assure you that Requiem isn't gonna stop placing and im confident BITS wont be either. Rivi is enticing enough as there is fights there daily.
Guess I just didn't notice. I really only check the EldritchBot logs in the #conquest channel. Either way I don't think there's really a reason to add more attacks to Rivina at the current moment.
 

Sparky___

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Slicer
There have been rivi fights almost daily for the past week and probably longer then that I just haven't checked.

https://eldritchbot.com/fight?id=r1MN4h4J$
https://eldritchbot.com/fight?id=rkZrsVzJO
https://eldritchbot.com/fight?id=Bk@sfalJu
https://eldritchbot.com/fight?id=Hkrm55k1$
https://eldritchbot.com/fight?id=SJJtpB0Rv
https://eldritchbot.com/fight?id=S17AOT2Rv
https://eldritchbot.com/fight?id=HyyveijAD
https://eldritchbot.com/fight?id=SytDfI9CD


I can assure you that Requiem isn't gonna stop placing and im confident BITS wont be either. Rivi is enticing enough as there is fights there daily.
FWIW fights between only two alliances aren't really enough to declare Rivina is enticing enough.
 

Sparky___

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Slicer
There's only 3 sides that participate in Conquest?!?! 4 counting Covant who all moved to one of the other two sides to fight on Balak?!?!
Members of Requiem also moved to either sides that are fighting on Balak. The point I was making is that there are (we can reasonably assume) at least 4 alliances, or "sides" that could be participating on Rivina and only half of them are. I don't disagree that more uses for CP would be more enticing (no-brainer solution, especially since with no land that immediately removes most of the benefits of fighting on Rivina for Covenant), but 2/4 alliances fighting is not really enough data to say Rivina "is enticing enough."
 

FoxyBearGames

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Guardian
Members of Requiem also moved to either sides that are fighting on Balak. The point I was making is that there are (we can reasonably assume) at least 4 alliances, or "sides" that could be participating on Rivina and only half of them are. I don't disagree that more uses for CP would be more enticing (no-brainer solution, especially since with no land that immediately removes most of the benefits of fighting on Rivina for Covenant), but 2/4 alliances fighting is not really enough data to say Rivina "is enticing enough."
It is also worth noting that Rivina isn't just made for the top alliances. It is meant for everyone to be able to participate no matter the size of their town, and adding more rewards is just the way to get them to participate.
 

Cryptite

Elder
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Elder
It is also worth noting that Rivina isn't just made for the top alliances. It is meant for everyone to be able to participate no matter the size of their town, and adding more rewards is just the way to get them to participate.

We want all 'erbody on Rivina.
 

TheFreshLemon

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Slicer
Members of Requiem also moved to either sides that are fighting on Balak. The point I was making is that there are (we can reasonably assume) at least 4 alliances, or "sides" that could be participating on Rivina and only half of them are. I don't disagree that more uses for CP would be more enticing (no-brainer solution, especially since with no land that immediately removes most of the benefits of fighting on Rivina for Covenant), but 2/4 alliances fighting is not really enough data to say Rivina "is enticing enough."
Yeah except we're still participating lol. 1/3 alliances excluding Reqiuem are allies in some way and won't attack each other, and the other tiny alliances don't care because they don't even touch the smaller tiles.


It is also worth noting that Rivina isn't just made for the top alliances. It is meant for everyone to be able to participate no matter the size of their town, and adding more rewards is just the way to get them to participate.
Fake news. Rivinia isn't or wasn't built for smaller towns and alliances based on the facts and how it works. Rivinia is conquest so they'd have to compete with the top players on the server for points so unless they're a small group of good pvpers that somehow didn't get recruited into 1/4 alliances (rare if in existence). What do they gain?!?! You gain CP which is used to mod radars, so you need land on an actual continent which would most likely end up in small town vs. big alliance (again hasn't happened). The CP store is only good for pvpers and no one else, so you're main target are pvpers and pvp alliances and other then those 4 big ones there are none. Which is why you don't see them placing on Rivinia at all. (except for silent who memes and is already rich)
 

Sparky___

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Slicer
Yeah except we're still participating lol. 1/3 alliances excluding Reqiuem are allies in some way and won't attack each other, and the other tiny alliances don't care because they don't even touch the smaller tiles.
Exactly, so this is indicative of Rivina not being "enticing enough."
 

ThePigGang

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Guardian
I mean if the argument is its not enticing enough cause only 2 alliances are the ones fighting thats not really valid cause the 4 alliances that have tiles on Rivina are what make up like 90% of the player actvitiy (exaggeration but hopefully you get the point). In other words everyone is already on Rivina.
We want all 'erbody on Rivina.
In my opinion I think 1 Rivina attack is fine the way it is but I disagree if you think its inactive and not being used to its highest potiential. BITS and Requiem as well as WF now are what make up the vast majority of the active playerbase.

I also believe something more informative should be provided to new players about Rivina A good example of what I mean is the town of "Kingdom of Moria", if you were to ask them what Rivina is they would say something along the lines of "it has to do with conquest points".
It is also worth noting that Rivina isn't just made for the top alliances. It is meant for everyone to be able to participate no matter the size of their town, and adding more rewards is just the way to get them to participate.
True but like why are only the top alliances placing on Rivina then ? As I see it Rivina nowadays is more used for PvP fun then needing actual conquest points.
 

FoxyBearGames

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Guardian
Fake news. Rivinia isn't or wasn't built for smaller towns and alliances based on the facts and how it works. Rivinia is conquest so they'd have to compete with the top players on the server for points so unless they're a small group of good pvpers that somehow didn't get recruited into 1/4 alliances (rare if in existence). What do they gain?!?! You gain CP which is used to mod radars, so you need land on an actual continent which would most likely end up in small town vs. big alliance (again hasn't happened). The CP store is only good for pvpers and no one else, so you're main target are pvpers and pvp alliances and other then those 4 big ones there are none. Which is why you don't see them placing on Rivinia at all. (except for silent who memes and is already rich)
It literally was built for everyone. This is why you can only take tiles that have MORE conquest points than your own, which prevents big towns from attacking smaller towns. You also are able to buy industry buffs, which are literally the solution for getting good industry output as a small town.
I mean if the argument is its not enticing enough cause only 2 alliances are the ones fighting thats not really valid cause the 4 alliances that have tiles on Rivina are what make up like 90% of the player actvitiy (exaggeration but hopefully you get the point). In other words everyone is already on Rivina.

In my opinion I think 1 Rivina attack is fine the way it is but I disagree if you think its inactive and not being used to its highest potiential. BITS and Requiem as well as WF now are what make up the vast majority of the active playerbase.

I also believe something more informative should be provided to new players about Rivina A good example of what I mean is the town of "Kingdom of Moria", if you were to ask them what Rivina is they would say something along the lines of "it has to do with conquest points".

True but like why are only the top alliances placing on Rivina then ? As I see it Rivina nowadays is more used for PvP fun then needing actual conquest points.
You do have to take into account the there are plenty of people who aren't in WF or Requiem. You may think that the majority of the server is allied with you guys, but frankly there are plenty of smaller towns which aren't aligned to either of the big powers right now who could all totally use Rivina. You do bring up a good point on the fact that smaller towns have no clue what Rivina is, and this is something that should definitely get fixed. Rivina needs to get pushed with tips and what not for the smaller towns.
Exactly, so this is indicative of Rivina not being "enticing enough."
Yeah and adding more buffs/uses for CP will most definitely fix this issue.
 

TheFreshLemon

Well-Known Member
Slicer
It literally was built for everyone. This is why you can only take tiles that have MORE conquest points than your own, which prevents big towns from attacking smaller towns. You also are able to buy industry buffs, which are literally the solution for getting good industry output as a small town.
Bro I just said industry buffs are used to just get mats for conquest. What builders need pearls, blaze rods, and ais? The only good use is ais for them to repair their tools.

You do have to take into account the there are plenty of people who aren't in WF or Requiem. You may think that the majority of the server is allied with you guys, but frankly there are plenty of smaller towns which aren't aligned to either of the big powers right now who could all totally use Rivina. You do bring up a good point on the fact that smaller towns have no clue what Rivina is, and this is something that should definitely get fixed. Rivina needs to get pushed with tips and what not for the smaller towns.
Again as I stated in my post above those people who are "neutral" and not aligned with either alliance, don't place on Rivinia. Your alliance doesn't either and since the new Rivinia update no small towns/alliances other then BITN who has ties with Requiem has placed on Rivinia. Even before only Katolis placed after the WF vs. Nexa Rivi before Balak.

Idk why you wouldn't promote alliances having fun and as you made very clear big alliances can't attack smaller ones so more attacks wouldn't effect them :)

I do agree on new uses for CP as the store is bad and after radar mods it's useless.
 
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