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Suggestion No-Fly Policy Affecting Only Outside Your Town

NerdieBirdieYT

Well-Known Member
Slicer
So recently on Kalros the No-Fly Policy or whatever it's called was implemented by the Capital. This prevents any player outside the Capital alliance from using elytra anywhere on the continent. Cool policy. Not a fan of being under it, but it's a really interesting one!

Issue is when it comes to your own Town. Towns are the only """safe""" spots on Loka aside from spawn. There you can build and be in relative peace. However, with this policy, the no-flying rule means players can't zoom around in their own Towns to get places faster, help with sky builds, or play on elytra courses. In addition, it nullifies the Town perk that allows for infinite rocket usage within your own Town. My Town members have found this extremely annoying as we work on our sky islands and travel between places within our Town.

Hopefully this post can stir up some thought and discussion about this policy! What do YOU think?
 

Jedoi

Well-Known Member
Slicer
On one hand, it's incredibly annoying and I would LOVE to make inside your town an exception. On the other hand, it was pointed out to me that this annoying-ness can inspire people to overthrow the capital to get a better one. So, take that how you will I guess.
 

Evil_X

Well-Known Member
Sentry
Elytra's disabled in your own town just stops you being able to more easily travel around and get to hard to reach spots, doesn't limit you for conquest in anyway and isn't necessary. #JusticeForTheBirdsOfLoka
 

koi0001

Well-Known Member
Guardian
Elytra's disabled in your own town just stops you being able to more easily travel around and get to hard to reach spots, doesn't limit you for conquest in anyway and isn't necessary.

I thought that was the point. The awkwardness creates a scenario where you either join the leading alliance, try and become the leading alliance or discuss the policy choice with the leading alliance.
 

Evil_X

Well-Known Member
Sentry
I thought that was the point. The awkwardness creates a scenario where you either join the leading alliance, try and become the leading alliance or discuss the policy choice with the leading alliance.
I'd assume the point is to make placing harder, and getting around the continent to the enemy or to RI would be harder.
While there could be some inaccuracy to this I'd think it's fair to say people using elytra's in their own town and have an issue with them being disabled are towns more opted to building and aren't heavily focus PVP towns. For a policy that exists with the intention of driving these towns to join the alliance that made elytra use impossible or fight just to take them down and get access back to your wings to help with traversing your town and building, NN is the perfect example of how this policy isn't doing much but just hindering those non PVP towns in a way that doesn't do much but try to push them into fighting.
I understand there are some loopholes in this argument but while there could be a policy made to somehow push people towards joining or speaking it out with the leading alliance I don't think this is the best way for this sort of policy to work.
 

NerdieBirdieYT

Well-Known Member
Slicer
I'd assume the point is to make placing harder, and getting around the continent to the enemy or to RI would be harder.
While there could be some inaccuracy to this I'd think it's fair to say people using elytra's in their own town and have an issue with them being disabled are towns more opted to building and aren't heavily focus PVP towns. For a policy that exists with the intention of driving these towns to join the alliance that made elytra use impossible or fight just to take them down and get access back to your wings to help with traversing your town and building, NN is the perfect example of how this policy isn't doing much but just hindering those non PVP towns in a way that doesn't do much but try to push them into fighting.
I understand there are some loopholes in this argument but while there could be a policy made to somehow push people towards joining or speaking it out with the leading alliance I don't think this is the best way for this sort of policy to work.
Basically my thoughts in a nutshell.

It's great for making RI trips harder, making it harder to raid Towns, making placing more difficult, etc, that's all well and good. But inside your own Town... why? Joining the leading alliance isn't always an option, especially for non-pvp Towns or Towns that like their current alliance. As for discussing policy changes, sure I guess, but a Town that would enact that policy in the first place isn't likely to be open to changing it simply because other Towns can't fly in their own Towns.
 

Cryptite

Elder
Staff member
Elder
The point of some policies like this one, really, is just to allow towns to be jerks if they want to. That's why there're several ways you can go with many of the policies.

While you don't have to PvP on Loka or participate in Conquest, that doesn't mean you should also be 100% shielded from anything about Conquest. If you're safe in your town and are in no way affected by the actions/policies of others beyond Biome Control, then you can be pretty disconnected from the world, which is something we don't want. Of course with this policy, 1.14 will also make it a little less punishing with scaffolding, but that's later.

As wise people have said, If you don't like it, setup an inhib.
 

koi0001

Well-Known Member
Guardian
As for discussing policy changes, sure I guess, but a Town that would enact that policy in the first place isn't likely to be open to changing it simply because other Towns can't fly in their own Towns.

When I mentioned discussing I thought it would be assumed that I intended for political sway or even bribing. Both of these options don't include PVP whatsoever.
 

ACwavelength

Active Member
Slicer
Joining the leading alliance isn't always an option, especially for non-pvp Towns or Towns that like their current alliance.
Maybe there could be an option for the capital to ease the effects of a policy for certain towns, which could be negotiated with bribes or territories or whatever.
 
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