So this is a totally undeveloped idea, which is why it's not in Suggestions.
Raiding has gotten nerfed the past few updates, which is totally fair in and of itself. The changes to raiding make sense. What troubles me, as someone who thinks raids are absolutely thrilling (take a look at my last couple survival series if you don't believe me, lol), is that raiding was already REALLY HARD. Build a five-block wall and you're usually completely safe. I go around a lot trying to get into various Towns, I love trying to figure out how I could get in. Usually the Towns I get into have no defenses at all or things outside their wall that are higher than the wall.
Basically, if you have 5-block walls, you have a very low chance of getting raided.
While protection from losing everything you own is something I love about Loka, the previously mentioned nerfs to raiding (specifically Line-of-Sight item pickup and entity interaction) make what used to be really hard almost impossible for any established base.
My super undeveloped idea is this: make some custom items for raiders. What about a levitating potion, or some tool that helps you jump higher? What about a rare item that outlines chests or something, helping you see where you need to get to?
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Something else to consider is the use of Replay Mod / World Download mods. These mods are unallowed in most situations, and Crypt has expressed his concerns about allowing them, as they would "become the new meta." While that makes sense, my issue with that ruling has always been that there isn't really a way to tell if those mods are being used. A player could download a foreign Town and find a way in without looking suspicious in the least. The player could find a hole in the downloaded Town, then go there in the server, acting inconspicuous and as if they just stumbled upon it. Basically, players may already using these mods, which would give them an advantage over rule-abiding players.
To me, the use of Replay/similar for raiding purposes can be part of the fun. You still have to scour the base, perhaps even more than usual. You get to see it from different perspectives. It doesn't give you any ways in that aren't accessible to players without the mod. If you download it, you scout the base, you can plan a raid with your Town! How cool is that! :O Side-note: I world-downloaded NN once with admin permission to check for holes. I had some NN peeps in a call and it was so much fun flying around our base looking for dangerous holes!
Usually Replay isn't allowed because it makes it easy to see ores underground. For Loka, though... We already know where the ores are. If you go strip mining on a continent... Who even are you o.o
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So yeah, there are my super bad ideas to #MakeThwartingGreatAgain .
What do YOU think?
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Edit: the point of this thread is not to advocate for allowing Replay and such, but rather to raise discussion and ideas for ways to make raiding better.
Raiding has gotten nerfed the past few updates, which is totally fair in and of itself. The changes to raiding make sense. What troubles me, as someone who thinks raids are absolutely thrilling (take a look at my last couple survival series if you don't believe me, lol), is that raiding was already REALLY HARD. Build a five-block wall and you're usually completely safe. I go around a lot trying to get into various Towns, I love trying to figure out how I could get in. Usually the Towns I get into have no defenses at all or things outside their wall that are higher than the wall.
Basically, if you have 5-block walls, you have a very low chance of getting raided.
While protection from losing everything you own is something I love about Loka, the previously mentioned nerfs to raiding (specifically Line-of-Sight item pickup and entity interaction) make what used to be really hard almost impossible for any established base.
My super undeveloped idea is this: make some custom items for raiders. What about a levitating potion, or some tool that helps you jump higher? What about a rare item that outlines chests or something, helping you see where you need to get to?
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Something else to consider is the use of Replay Mod / World Download mods. These mods are unallowed in most situations, and Crypt has expressed his concerns about allowing them, as they would "become the new meta." While that makes sense, my issue with that ruling has always been that there isn't really a way to tell if those mods are being used. A player could download a foreign Town and find a way in without looking suspicious in the least. The player could find a hole in the downloaded Town, then go there in the server, acting inconspicuous and as if they just stumbled upon it. Basically, players may already using these mods, which would give them an advantage over rule-abiding players.
To me, the use of Replay/similar for raiding purposes can be part of the fun. You still have to scour the base, perhaps even more than usual. You get to see it from different perspectives. It doesn't give you any ways in that aren't accessible to players without the mod. If you download it, you scout the base, you can plan a raid with your Town! How cool is that! :O Side-note: I world-downloaded NN once with admin permission to check for holes. I had some NN peeps in a call and it was so much fun flying around our base looking for dangerous holes!
Usually Replay isn't allowed because it makes it easy to see ores underground. For Loka, though... We already know where the ores are. If you go strip mining on a continent... Who even are you o.o
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So yeah, there are my super bad ideas to #MakeThwartingGreatAgain .
What do YOU think?
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Edit: the point of this thread is not to advocate for allowing Replay and such, but rather to raise discussion and ideas for ways to make raiding better.
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