No Plans to Implement Vouching system

[LightAndDqrk]

I wanted to talk about a system that has been around Loka for a year and it is Vouching. How it works is that a 6 month player has to vouch for new players that join to loka so they can enjoy the server. However, if the person I (for example) vouched for is an alt i get banned for assisting this person as well. This system is only a policy for Turkish players and a few other countries. I understand that this system is there to decrease the numbers of alt accounts in the server. despite all of that there are still been a few players that has managed to play loka as an alt. Since a lot of players post lokatage and other stuff related to the server it attracts players and when Turkish players try to join the server for the first time without knowing anyone it almost becomes impossible to play loka and since nobody knows this new guy they refuse to vouch for him. So a new player wanting to play loka cant because they do not know anyone that plays loka. We know that this system is mainly for Turkiye and few other countries however people still get past this vouching system and play as an alt. Even though, vouching became policy in order to reduce the number of alts in the future, I wouldn't say that it worked very well. Having this system in Turkiye and few more countries but not having the same system in most of the countries is silly. It is obvious that this system is useless. What would be best is if the vouch system would be upgraded to a better system. Because other alliances in LokaMc can invite players to join them in their fight
meanwhile, Turkish and other few countries that have this policy has to open a ticket and wait for someone to vouch for them which can take days or hours which as we all know is vital in conquests. Of course it is normal however us not being able to do this and wait for someone to respond to tickets or even find someone to vouch for a specific player is unjust and risky in my opinion. For everyone to play the game fairly we want this policy has to be removed or changed. Recently it is possible to see that there have been players that was able to get past this policy and play loka as an alt. We try to report as many alts as we can find but still it proves my point that this system needs to be changed or removed. As an example of players who managed to sneak into loka and play in a different account:
Xpures, 4desh and 123deniz999
The players listed above played loka in their alt accounts while their main accounts were banned for different reasons and once again proved my point that the system is not that hard to get past all you need is to open a vpn and connect to a country that does not have this policy

 

[carbii]

+1 i bet americans alt more than all the countries that require vouches combined

 

[Av4nss]

+1 I think this problem should be solved urgently

 

[_rigby]

+1

 

[Kaiakos4]

+1

 

[PETI]

-1 the system is good enough

 

[CoraWhy]

+1 its unfair for turks or another region that have vouch system. New players cant join loka if they dont have any friends who play loka.

 

[Skuhoo]

I'm not going to go into detail but vouches are required for specific countries for specific reasons not applicable to other countries and we know that the system works for what we're trying to do. There are currently no plans to change it.

 

[Av4nss]

I'm not going to go into detail but vouches are required for specific countries for specific reasons not applicable to other countries and we know that the system works for what we're trying to do. There are currently no plans to change it.

In other countries there are many players using alt-accounts, why is no action taken against them? e.g. USA

 

[Merihdemirall]

In other countries there are many players using alt-accounts, why is no action taken against them? e.g. USA

+1

 

[Cryptite]

I wanted to talk about a system that has been around Loka for a year and it is Vouching. How it works is that a 6 month player has to vouch for new players that join to loka so they can enjoy the server. However, if the person I (for example) vouched for is an alt i get banned for assisting this person as well. This system is only a policy for Turkish players and a few other countries. I understand that this system is there to decrease the numbers of alt accounts in the server. despite all of that there are still been a few players that has managed to play loka as an alt. Since a lot of players post lokatage and other stuff related to the server it attracts players and when Turkish players try to join the server for the first time without knowing anyone it almost becomes impossible to play loka and since nobody knows this new guy they refuse to vouch for him. So a new player wanting to play loka cant because they do not know anyone that plays loka. We know that this system is mainly for Turkiye and few other countries however people still get past this vouching system and play as an alt. Even though, vouching became policy in order to reduce the number of alts in the future, I wouldn't say that it worked very well. Having this system in Turkiye and few more countries but not having the same system in most of the countries is silly. It is obvious that this system is useless. What would be best is if the vouch system would be upgraded to a better system. Because other alliances in LokaMc can invite players to join them in their fight
meanwhile, Turkish and other few countries that have this policy has to open a ticket and wait for someone to vouch for them which can take days or hours which as we all know is vital in conquests. Of course it is normal however us not being able to do this and wait for someone to respond to tickets or even find someone to vouch for a specific player is unjust and risky in my opinion. For everyone to play the game fairly we want this policy has to be removed or changed. Recently it is possible to see that there have been players that was able to get past this policy and play loka as an alt. We try to report as many alts as we can find but still it proves my point that this system needs to be changed or removed. As an example of players who managed to sneak into loka and play in a different account:
Xpures, 4desh and 123deniz999
The players listed above played loka in their alt accounts while their main accounts were banned for different reasons and once again proved my point that the system is not that hard to get past all you need is to open a vpn and connect to a country that does not have this policy

Firstly, the fact that some players still slip through and are able to alt is not evidence that "the system is useless." As Sku said, it's actually been overwhelmingly useful at catching alts.

Further, your entire post is not a suggestion at all, but is simply a complaint about the current system. Do you have any actual suggestions on how to improve the system?

 

[AKHISARLI]

First of all, I strongly disagree with LightAndDqrk. And I think Vouch system is so usefull.

But The problem is Loka's rank(Basically People with Sentry-Guardian rank) system is not working good. ''Why do you think like that?'' Let me explain!
What can The Sentry rank do? Sub-admin rank. Sentries are predominantly chat moderators, keeping public chat clean, assisting new players and answering all questions in chat. it organizes the chat, helps and guides new players in tickets, and after the addition of tickets, it becomes a kind of assistant to the Ticket Admins.
Everything is normal so far but the problem here is that when people in Loka become guardians/sentries, they start to care less about the server and dont bother at all. 21 people have sentry rank on Loka and 16 people have guardian. But there are a total of 10-15 people that I see(or hear their names from other people players) dealing with problems (SSing alt accounts, finding VPN bypasses of players. and dealing with tickets). A lot of people making/opening tickets everday but for most of them cant get an answer without pinging someone. The only way to prevent this is to set a rule for Sentry rank (and maybe for Guardians)
For example: They must deal with 10 tickets in 3 months or maybe they need to be active in chat like sending 1000 msg in chat Idk you decide. You(Cryptite) are the person with the highest imagination Ive ever seen, I think you can find something suitable.
''No, but they worked hard for the server, they helped people.'' Yes, I know they helped before, so my opinion is that they should be demoted to slicer rank because they act like Slicer not Sentry sorry.
Slicer: This is an honorary rank given to those who have played on Loka regularly, for an extended period of time, and have therefore become a known and respected member of the community, having contributed to the server in some way.

And finally, I am playing this server for almost 4 years and there are sentries on this server that I have never seen online. I dont want to mention their names but If you check the sentry list It is possible to see a name you have never seen before in your life.(Am talking about Players not you cryptite)

 

[Zachary_N_Kaleno]

The issue with having security systems in place is that when it works, people don't realize it works, and think it's useless. However, when you don't have one, you realize how much you need one very quickly.

 

[Click1x]

i’ve been asked to be a voucher before it works good