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I haven't dealt much with SayreSlayer, but in his appeals he strikes me as collected and sincere. He's made repeated apologies, promised to correct his behavior and left the final verdict up to the staff. What more can be said or done until the staff weighs in? Most of the pushback in this thread is ridiculous, emotional kvetching that isn't any more pointed than vague accusations of toxicity from years ago.
As someone who was harassed by you, I wouldn't trust you to return to the server. Obviously recruiting is good, but this behaviour is not acceptable on Loka.

Personally I cannot tell you how many anti-semitic things I have seen Ringo send especially targeting other Jewish players with this hatred. This is especially concerning for me as I have encountered threats IRL, and don’t want to deal with it on Loka.
You people are so self-important and officious it makes me choke.
+1, for what it's worth.
 
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+1, for what it's worth.
Not worth particularly much when you're permamuted for the same stuff he was banned for.
You people are so self-important and officious it makes me choke.
Saying that someone is "self-important and officious" because they want to play a block game without being blatantly harassed of their religion or who they choose to associate themselves with is just f'd. There's a big difference between being a baby about something minimal and getting this kind of treatment for something unassociated with the game. Learn to read the rules bud.

5.1. Don't use any words in public or local chat that could be seen as offensive, as all ages play on the server.
5.2. No hate speech or any other kind of discrimination.
 
Implying that ringo has had a lasting impact on the overall "toxicity" of the server is an awkward point. The chat had "unfavourable moments" years ago, just as it did during his activity, and just as it has done afterwards. Ultimately he has made little lasting impact in making loka a less friendly place, and his work in introducing new communities to loka has objectively done more good than bad no?
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Recruiting like this doesn't very seem positive...
like are you SURE this is your mans????
 
if you guys pardon him can i get unbanned too? when i was alting this guy posted pictures of my infant brother in discord and said a bunch of vulgar and racist things until i admitted i was me and he wasn’t even allowed on the server at the time. he isn’t different just like how mario will never be better than me at phantom forces
#ander #andersgame #mariosucks
#marioisbadatminecrafttoo
 
if you guys pardon him can i get unbanned too? when i was alting this guy posted pictures of my infant brother in discord and said a bunch of vulgar and racist things until i admitted i was me and he wasn’t even allowed on the server at the time. he isn’t different just like how mario will never be better than me at phantom forces
#ander #andersgame #mariosucks
#marioisbadatminecrafttoo
ok Zuccahoo
 
if you guys pardon him can i get unbanned too? when i was alting this guy posted pictures of my infant brother in discord and said a bunch of vulgar and racist things until i admitted i was me and he wasn’t even allowed on the server at the time. he isn’t different just like how mario will never be better than me at phantom forces
#ander #andersgame #mariosucks
#marioisbadatminecrafttoo
free chocolatero
 
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for clarification not all of leadership let you into their towns, supplied you with anything you would need, or get all your items when you were banned. he is indeed alone in that regard, and you also mention that you alted more than one time, I personally only knew about obyes alt and i guarantee most of the leadership didn't know more than just that one as well. saying all of old requiem leadership did as much as lemon did is quite a blatantly false statement


Regardless of any "good" you did for the community in the past, you did basically an equal amount of "bad"
I'm going to keep my input as a -1
Sorry for responding again on this appeal staff, but I just needed to say some stuff.

To respond to Moist, pretty sure the alt was also in Ionia + Euphoria, but okay buddy don't act innocent, because we all know you aren't. Unless you didn't speak fluent English in that chat you're not clear and shouldn't be talking about literally anything.


On a side note we presumably see one of your "old friends" who appears to be turning their head. Although lemon said "I don't condone" we see him saying "Opps here" most likely giving you permissions to a leadership channel to share your plans privately. I can't see enough to prove that lemon had no problem with the idea of you alting but im confident that if you did alt lemon would fail to report it. You even use the term "spic" a highly offensive and derogatory word. Regardless this isnt about lemon its about you, it took me less then 5 minutes to find all this. On top of everything else it seems a sentry was leaking chats to you. You can argue that you were "joking" but I still strongly believe your intentions have not changed since your initial ban.
You can't see enough even though that's literally leadership LOL. You want to say that we moved to a different chat (not true), even though we literally continued the conversation there for a few more hours if not days. As for him using "spic" that's basically the same as calling your alliance "Mexican or Mexicans" even though literally like 2 of them are from Mexico?
Alright since you edited it, there is a reason I said alleged doxxer, because I personally don't have the proof.

1. Where in the hell are you guys getting your information on doxxing and literally everything else?

If you got something to say, at least try to bring proof like Pig did (even though it was wack).
Not vague accusations, I saw it with my own eyes. I also haven't played this server for more than a year.
Send the stuff you saw with your own eyes ^

Like I've known him for at least 2 years and he hasn't ddosed or doxxed since I've known him. Has he said and joked about it? Yeah, but there are people who've legit done this stuff and still play Loka so hop off bro, as for the "he threatened to doxx rp people or whatever" Read this from his last appeal. I can't quote it, but "Ringo said he was going to ddos me for leaving requiem in a public vc. I do not think that he was serious, and the other people in the vc would probably agree as well that he was joking. While I do not think that he will ever be unbanned because of his actions, I do think that ringo could fix the problems he made and make a positive impact on the server if he were unbanned. - Samisol" yeah it's a pretty wack thing to do, but the people there knew it wasn't serious and if they didn't well now you do.

2. You're bringing up things from the past or talking about useless crap, literally no one cares about edating so just keep it out of this post. You're also bringing stuff talked about in his last appeal or from YEARS ago, I just read everyone's responses and the majority of them are USELESS. Not one person has brought anything to the table that wasn't said in his last appeal or something relevant at all. You guys are going at each others throats for no reason. Literally say your piece and dip stop arguing and let staff make their decision. Doing Pingo dirty here smh that my friends is "toxic" at least give a fair trial.
 
I can't believe your defending him lemon when I've literally heard him first hand be extremely racist to you, even when you would try to speak he would often make remarks such as "shut up your black" I find it so insane that you can defend him knowing how he really is, he was racist to you as many people in your alliance have been and are and I find it quite insane you can just turn a blind eye to it, if he can do it to one of his supposed friends whats to stop him from doing it to strangers, mad.
 
Just to add to lemon's response, if you don't have evidence, where is the credibility of what you're saying? Please back up your statements with evidence, if you only saw it, its not credible, and its only credible when there is hard evidence. It feels like a lot of this is made up and fashioned to paint someone in a bad way to push someone's agenda.

This thread has derailed entirely to the point where most posts are "RINGO BAD ME NO LIKE RINGO -1 -1!!!!" and its not a progressive way to judge if he should return to the server.

Staff should just lock this thread and give their judgement, thats really what matters anyways, its all down to staff if he comes back or not.
 
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I can't believe your defending him lemon when I've literally heard him first hand be extremely racist to you, even when you would try to speak he would often make remarks such as "shut up your black" I find it so insane that you can defend him knowing how he really is, he was racist to you as many people in your alliance have been and are and I find it quite insane you can just turn a blind eye to it, if he can do it to one of his supposed friends whats to stop him from doing it to strangers, mad.
Just saying that alot of people have reformed from bits wf and requiem so why cant ringo reform ?
 
Just saying that alot of people have reformed from bits wf and requiem so why cant ringo reform ?
I have already reported RECENT racism and toxicity from him directly to mag, he hasn't changed, this forum post is also further proof of that
 
1. Where in the hell are you guys getting your information on doxxing and literally everything else?
Multiple people have told me personally and I can only speak for myself.

If you got something to say, at least try to bring proof like Pig did (even though it was wack).
Send the stuff you saw with your own eyes
I have the screenshots but I think it would be best to leave racial slurs off of the forums as everyone can see it.

You're also bringing stuff talked about in his last appeal or from YEARS ago, I just read everyone's responses and the majority of them are USELESS. Not one person has brought anything to the table that wasn't said in his last appeal or something relevant at all.
The things we are concerned about are not from years ago.

Just to add to lemon's response, if you don't have evidence, where is the credibility of what you're saying? Please back up your statements with evidence, if you only saw it, its not credible, and its only credible when there is hard evidence. It feels like a lot of this is made up and fashioned to paint someone in a bad way to push someone's agenda.
The hard evidence has been sent to the staff team because of what I said earlier.

Just saying that alot of people have reformed from bits wf and requiem so why cant ringo reform ?
The people who have reformed were people that never started off as hateful as Ringo was around Loka. He could reform (and I hope he has) but that hatefulness has obviously created reservations.
 
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