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BAN DISPUTE: DOXXING

ziedend

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IGN: ziedend + ILoveYouNotLoL
Ban date: 8/18/2026
Today`s date: 8/19/2026

Hello Loka, i`m here to dispute the doxxing ban issued to me and my friend since we were banned for the same reason.

Before starting this dispute I want to make it clear from the beginning that we`re not claiming that Loka isn`t allowed to have its own set of rules, my dispute is about the classification, circumstances, and the severity of the issued punishment, and the fact that we weren`t aware that Loka applies a significantly broader and server specific interpretation of doxxing than the ordinary/legal meaning of term.


What actually happened:

The images involved weren`t obtained from private sources and weren`t leaked by us.

In Fastlyy`s case, his Minercaft username history which publicly contains his full name.

This information is publicly accessible through his username history and can be viewed by anyone.

That publicly available name was then used by someone to find his Linkedin profile, which was also publicly accessible.

The picture used was taken from his Linkedin profile. No private account was accessed, no login was required, and no private picture was obtained.

This is crucial because the picture wasn`t taken from a private source and then exposed by us. It was already publicly accessible on Linkedin prior to it being used.

Fastlyy had also publicly posted his own face in a public Discord server which can still be seen to this day on August 23, 2025.

On january 9, 2026, when that same image was being discussed, Fastlyy himself stated (translated):

"son"
“I myself”
"sent it"
"send it to whoever you want"
"i dont get it"
"whats wrong with the pic"

"idc about loka"
"i sent that pic aswell myself"
"😭"
"what dox are you talking about"

These statements are crucial because Fastlyy himself confirmed that he had voluntarily posted an image of himself publicly and explicitly stated that other people could send it and that he had no problem with it.

There was therefore no private picture that we discovered, hacked, obtained from a private account, or leaked.

The same applies to wesl0a, recently changed to Guvensiz.

His previous username contains his name, which is also publicly visible through his username history. His first name can therefore be discovered through information that is already publicly accessible.

His instagram profile picture was also publicly visible, it could be seen by anyone who stumbled across it, and he himself acknowledged that it was indeed his instagram profile picture, which again, can be seen by anyone who stumbles across his account.

We did not obtain or publish a private adress, phone number, IP adress, private messages, content within a private account, or any private information.



Additional evidence regarding intent:
Fastlyy also submitted a report ticket in my own server, FFA Clan Hub, where we handle blacklist reports. As part of that report/blacklist process, Fastlyy screenshared his IP-adress to me so I could verify the information and determine whether it aligned with the report.

This is particularly relevant to the question of the intent.

I had therefore been shown information which was actually private/sensitive. If my intention had genuinely been to dox Fastlyy, I would have had access to information that was far more relevant to an actual doxxing allegation, yet I never disclosed, published, or used that information against him.

Instead, material used in this ban consisted of information that was already publicly accesible, including a publicly visible Linkedin picture and a publicly shared picture that Fastlyy himself had posted.

The ordinary meaning of doxxing:

This detail is also important because our understanding of the term "doxxing" was based on its ordinary meaning.

Cambridge Dictionary defines "dox/doxx" in terms of publishing private information about someone online without their permission.

Other authoritative sources use the same general distinction:

The Cornell Legal Information Institute describes doxxing as publicly releasing personal information that may identify an individual without their consent, with examples including a home address, phone number, email, workplace and family information.

The UK Government Security Group describes doxxing as searching for and publishing private or identifying information about an individual, typically without consent and malicious intent.

The U.S. Department of Justice also described a doxxing prosecution involving the publication of a restricted home address with the intent to threaten, intimidate or facilitate violence.

I`m not presenting these sources as overriding Loka`s set of rules. I`m presenting them to explain why we genuinely understood doxxing to mean the exposure of private information rather than reposting/forwarding of information that the person had voluntarily made public themselves.

We weren`t aware of Loka`s broader interpretation:

I was TODAY made aware of Rule 6.1 which states the following:

“Don’t dox another player (this includes posting their name, image etc.) even if they have shared it themselves.”

I acknowledge that this wording is broader than the ordinary definitions described above.

Before this punishment, we were not aware that Loka specifically treated reposting a player’s own publicly shared image as doxxing even when the player had voluntarily made that image public themselves.

Our understanding was that doxxing involved exposing information that was private or otherwise not legitimately available to the public.

This was therefore not an attempt to circumvent Loka’s rules or to secretly expose someone’s personal information.

We simply did not understand that Loka had chosen to apply the term “doxxing” in this broader server-specific manner.

That distinction is relevant when considering both intent and the severity of the punishment.

There was no private-information leak:

Regardless of what terminology is used, the facts listed below remain unchanged:
  • Fastlyy publicly posted his own face prior.
  • Fastlyy explicitly stated that he had sent the image himself.
  • Fastlyy explicitly stated that people could send it to others.
  • Fastlyy`s previous username containing his full name was publicly visible through username history.
  • The GIFS containing Fastlyy`s picture is from his public Linkedin profile.
  • Wesl0a’s previous username containing his first name was publicly visible through username history.
  • His Instagram profile picture was publicly visible.
  • No private source was accessed.
  • No private database was accessed.
  • No private address, phone number, IP address, school, family information or private messages were exposed.
  • We did not discover a secret piece of personal information and reveal it to the community.
Therefore, there was no private-information leak in the conventional sense of the word “doxxing”.

The AI-generated GIF`s are a seperate issue:

I also want to distinguish the doxxing allegations from the GIF`s which were AI-generated.

The publicly available images were used by someone to create AI-generated GIF`s, which where then circulated by countless amount of people and created by neither me or birb.

I am not claiming that every piece of content created from those images was appropriate.

However, whether the resulting AI content was inappropriate is separate from whether private information was leaked.

The specific reason given for our punishment was doxxing.

If Loka believes that the AI-generated content itself violated another Loka rule, that should be considered separately and under the appropriate rule.

Evidence:

I have evidence for all of the relevant facts described above.

This includes:

* the original public Discord post containing Fastlyy’s own image;
* the timestamps;
* Fastlyy’s messages confirming that he sent the image himself;
* evidence showing the public accessibility of the relevant username history;
* evidence regarding wesl0a’s publicly visible Instagram profile picture;
* and the relevant messages and context surrounding the reports.

I am going to provide the complete evidence privately to a Loka Elder (Raddus).

dc:
username: ziedend.
user id: 1303375643693809766

I would prefer to provide the complete evidence privately rather than reposting images in a public forum.



Consistency in the interpretation of Rule 6.1:

There is another point I would like Loka staff to clarify.

If the interpretation of Rule 6.1 is that an image is considered doxxing when it is reposted even if the person themselves publicly shared it, then that interpretation should be applied consistently.

For example, Summerfling has claimed that an image constitutes doxxing while also acknowledging that he himself shared the image “as a joke”.

I am not raising this simply to say “someone else did it too”.

The point is the consistency of the interpretation.

If the same publicly shared image can be considered acceptable when the person voluntarily posts it themselves, but become “doxxing” when another person reposts that same publicly available image, I would like clarification on what factual distinction Loka uses to make that determination.

This is particularly relevant because Rule 6.1 specifically states that it applies “even if they have shared it themselves”.

Another public example:

There is also another publicly available example involving a Loka player who streams.

The following YouTube video was publicly posted by iLoveYouNotLol:


The video contains material from a Loka player’s public stream and was publicly posted as a clip.

I am not presenting this as an accusation that this player should be punished.

Instead, I am asking for clarification of the distinction.

If Loka’s interpretation is that reposting publicly available material can constitute doxxing even when the person themselves originally made that material public, then how is this public example distinguished from the conduct for which we were banned?

If there is a meaningful distinction, I am completely willing to accept that distinction. I simply want the rule to be applied based on a clear and consistent standard.

Why I believe the punishment should be reconsidered:

The combination of these circumstances is why I believe the punishment deserves reconsideration.

We understood “doxxing” to mean exposing private information that someone had not voluntarily made public.

That understanding is supported by the ordinary definition of the term and by common legal descriptions of doxxing.

We were not aware that Loka applies a broader server-specific interpretation in which reposting a publicly shared image can itself constitute doxxing even when the person voluntarily published the image.

If that is Loka’s intended interpretation, we understand that now and will respect it going forward.

However, the circumstances remain important:

  • the images were already publicly available;
  • Fastlyy explicitly stated that he sent his own image and that people could send it;
  • wesl0a’s image was a publicly visible profile picture;
  • no private information was obtained or leaked;
  • no private source was involved;
  • and there are other public examples that raise legitimate questions about the consistent application of Rule 6.1.
There was no malicious attempt to obtain or expose someone’s private data.

I am therefore asking Loka staff to reconsider the punishment based on the actual facts, the evidence available, our lack of awareness of the broader interpretation of Rule 6.1, and the circumstances surrounding the incident.

I am not asking for the rules to be ignored or for special treatment.

I am asking for the distinction between actual private-information doxxing and reposting information that the subject had already voluntarily made public to be taken into account when reviewing the punishment.

I am gonna dm Raddus and provide all the other and most relevant screenshots, original posts, timestamps and other evidence on discord, since I dont want to start a drama if I send all the of the screenshots within this dispute. Thank you for your time.

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-1 lying about me sharing the image as i was unsure if i did it or no but after checking my old messages from discords turns out i was nowhere close to even doing that - at first i never even said that i did share it i just said that "idk" (i dont know)
 
-1 lying about me sharing the image as i was unsure if i did it or no but after checking my old messages from discords turns out i was nowhere close to even doing that - at first i never even said that i did share it i just said that "idk" (i dont know)
Image 4 of thread, and these 3: well known Knucior and translator are confirming it.
 

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Key word "probably" where the "probably" turned out to be far from truth. Please read with comprehesion before saying anything serious.
Knucior's translation isnt accurate too since it suggests that I would have sent the image and that wesl0a would already have screenshots of it where i didnt say that and the AI/Google translation proves what im saying - "probably" meaning that he could have it IF I sent it but I didnt. Theres no "already" in what i said.
Also the fact that before the post edit you lied that i sent his picture TWICE (which isnt true) is even crazier. 😆
I understand that you might be mad at me cause I disagreed with ILoveYouNotLol about if the ban is deserved or no but manipulating just to get me banned isnt a normal behaviour
 
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Key word "probably" where the "probably" turned out to be far from truth. Please read with comprehesion before saying anything serious.
Knucior's translation isnt accurate too since it suggests that I would have sent the image and that wesl0a would already have screenshots of it where i didnt say that and the AI/Google translation proves what im saying - "probably" meaning that he could have it IF I sent it but I didnt. Theres no "already" in what i said.
Also the fact that before the post edit you lied that i sent his picture TWICE (which isnt true) is even crazier. 😆
i mentioned it that it was a small error btw u decided to ignore it, also weird how knucior translated it and it just says the same thing?

Ur using the keyword "probably" but weird how the other user mentioned "you are next gg, wesloa already having an ss of you sending it" or you mentioning "i think i sent it once as a joke but he likes me" if u did it as a joke and claim that we doxxed, you are no better?
 

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Image 4 of thread, and these 3: well known Knucior and translator are confirming it.
even if knucior translated this message correctly (this isnt correctly translated but ok) you can just translate the other messages i wrote to SummerFling and see that this isn't the first time we've written about doing something bad but in a JOKING way + he literally said in his reply that he checked his messages and found nothing regarding what you wrote in your appeal

(attached is fastly's response regarding to the SummerFling segment)
 

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As I said to your friend earlier - please read with comprehesion instead of acting in bias and bad faith because I disagreed with your statement about the ban earlier.
Still - I dont think it was really a mistake since you want me banned and I think that its just a straight manipulation and then trying to play it off on discord when I noticed that.
As again - you are bringing out a screenshoot from BEFORE I checked if I even did anything close to that (and again - No, I didnt).
AND AGAIN because you did NOT read my last message with comprehension - I said that "I think" instead of fully confirming that I would have done that - I was unsure if I did that too since a lot of people saw the images and were sending them but turned out that I didnt blindly follow everyone else.
 
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Im going to reply 1 more time because there is no correlation to this
even if knucior translated this message correctly (this isnt correctly translated but ok) you can just translate the other messages i wrote to SummerFling and see that this isn't the first time we've written about doing something bad but in a JOKING way + he literally said in his reply that he checked his messages and found nothing regarding what you wrote in your appeal

(attached is fastly's response regarding to the SummerFling segment)
Knucior asked another polish person for the translation part since you guys claim it's wrong, it's the same translation, nothing has changed reslly so it's weird u guys say the translation is wrong. Fastlyy mentions its not even close what "me and ziedend" did compared to summerfling, what did we do that was worse? the amount of times we sent it?

As I said to your friend earlier - please read with comprehesion instead of acting in bias and bad faith because I disagreed with your statement about the ban earlier.
Still - I dont think it was really a mistake since you want me banned and I think that its just a straight manipulation and then trying to play it off on discord when I noticed that.
As again - you are bringing out a screenshoot from BEFORE I checked if I even did anything close to that (and again - No, I didnt).
AND AGAIN because you did NOT read my last message with comprehension - I said that "I think" instead of fully confirming that I would have done that.
I wouldn't go throwing big words such as bias around, when a translator and 2 polish people both gave me the same translation.

If I truly wanted you banned I would’ve contacted a staff privately by now, there’s no reason for me to do so and I haven’t done so. Use common sense, there isn’t any manipulation either.

2 polish people + translator gave me those answers, I go with what the evidence is presented, calling me biased and manipulative for it is simply DEFLECTION.
As I said to your friend earlier - please read with comprehesion instead of acting in bias and bad faith because I disagreed with your statement about the ban earlier.
Still - I dont think it was really a mistake since you want me banned and I think that its just a straight manipulation and then trying to play it off on discord when I noticed that.
As again - you are bringing out a screenshoot from BEFORE I checked if I even did anything close to that (and again - No, I didnt).
AND AGAIN because you did NOT read my last message with comprehension - I said that "I think" instead of fully confirming that I would have done that.

First the “probably” shows that you didn’t do anything, then it became a translator malfunction, then it was just joking about doxxing? Which one is it?

I’ve sent the screenshot for a reason, your stories aren’t aligning and you’re deflecting. I’m also confused on what Fastlyy meant by:

“Its prob not even close”
“What birb and ziedend do and what summerfling does”
“Totally different”

Why is he mentioning probably not even close? If you hadn’t done anything he would surely say: summerfling didn’t do anything, birb and ziedend did. What’s he referring to here?

This is my last reply, I’ve shown everything I had to, the translation is right if my eyes dont deceive me, could you perhaps send your evidence of the translation being wrong?
 

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+1 If its public from the start it stays public it cannot just become doxxing magically if it already is public by themselves like if i post a picture of my dog and someone spreads it it doesnt become doxxing i made that picture public myself.
 
Im going to reply 1 more time because there is no correlation to this

Knucior asked another polish person for the translation part since you guys claim it's wrong, it's the same translation, nothing has changed reslly so it's weird u guys say the translation is wrong. Fastlyy mentions its not even close what "me and ziedend" did compared to summerfling, what did we do that was worse? the amount of times we sent it?


I wouldn't go throwing big words such as bias around, when a translator and 2 polish people both gave me the same translation.

If I truly wanted you banned I would’ve contacted a staff privately by now, there’s no reason for me to do so and I haven’t done so. Use common sense, there isn’t any manipulation either.

2 polish people + translator gave me those answers, I go with what the evidence is presented, calling me biased and manipulative for it is simply DEFLECTION.


First the “probably” shows that you didn’t do anything, then it became a translator malfunction, then it was just joking about doxxing? Which one is it?

I’ve sent the screenshot for a reason, your stories aren’t aligning and you’re deflecting. I’m also confused on what Fastlyy meant by:

“Its prob not even close”
“What birb and ziedend do and what summerfling does”
“Totally different”

Why is he mentioning probably not even close? If you hadn’t done anything he would surely say: summerfling didn’t do anything, birb and ziedend did. What’s he referring to here?

This is my last reply, I’ve shown everything I had to, the translation is right if my eyes dont deceive me, could you perhaps send your evidence of the translation being wrong?
Well - those 3 things you mentioned at the beggining can work together so I dont really understand what your point would be other than trying to manipulate facts to get me banned by deliberately misrepresenting my words.

There is no deflecting in what I am saying and since you are curious about fastly's response then Im going to attach a screenshoot of what fastly said when I asked him privately about this situation.
Before you most likely say that "oh but he said that you are innocent because you like each other" yes - we like each other and I dont really think that fastlyy would like me if I spread his face pictures like you guys did.

I also asked ChatGPT about the translation and as you can see on the attached image it agrees with what Im saying:
Everything in the translation is accurate EXCEPT for the part where knucior says "already" cause its only a interpretation BUT going further to check my other messages instead of the ones you picked while being dishonest to make me look bad the interpretation fades away because all of my messages combined (the ones that you didnt show too) show that I was saying that I dont really know if I even did anything and that I wasnt really serious about it (in the conversation between me and A (nahwy) for example we were saying it jokingly).

Hope this help you understand that I never leaked or did anything wrong 😁
 

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IGN: ziedend + ILoveYouNotLoL
Ban date: 8/18/2026
Today`s date: 8/19/2026

Hello Loka, i`m here to dispute the doxxing ban issued to me and my friend since we were banned for the same reason.

Before starting this dispute I want to make it clear from the beginning that we`re not claiming that Loka isn`t allowed to have its own set of rules, my dispute is about the classification, circumstances, and the severity of the issued punishment, and the fact that we weren`t aware that Loka applies a significantly broader and server specific interpretation of doxxing than the ordinary/legal meaning of term.


What actually happened:

The images involved weren`t obtained from private sources and weren`t leaked by us.

In Fastlyy`s case, his Minercaft username history which publicly contains his full name.

This information is publicly accessible through his username history and can be viewed by anyone.

That publicly available name was then used by someone to find his Linkedin profile, which was also publicly accessible.

The picture used was taken from his Linkedin profile. No private account was accessed, no login was required, and no private picture was obtained.

This is crucial because the picture wasn`t taken from a private source and then exposed by us. It was already publicly accessible on Linkedin prior to it being used.

Fastlyy had also publicly posted his own face in a public Discord server which can still be seen to this day on August 23, 2025.

On january 9, 2026, when that same image was being discussed, Fastlyy himself stated (translated):

"son"
“I myself”
"sent it"
"send it to whoever you want"
"i dont get it"
"whats wrong with the pic"

"idc about loka"
"i sent that pic aswell myself"
"😭"
"what dox are you talking about"

These statements are crucial because Fastlyy himself confirmed that he had voluntarily posted an image of himself publicly and explicitly stated that other people could send it and that he had no problem with it.

There was therefore no private picture that we discovered, hacked, obtained from a private account, or leaked.

The same applies to wesl0a, recently changed to Guvensiz.

His previous username contains his name, which is also publicly visible through his username history. His first name can therefore be discovered through information that is already publicly accessible.

His instagram profile picture was also publicly visible, it could be seen by anyone who stumbled across it, and he himself acknowledged that it was indeed his instagram profile picture, which again, can be seen by anyone who stumbles across his account.

We did not obtain or publish a private adress, phone number, IP adress, private messages, content within a private account, or any private information.



Additional evidence regarding intent:
Fastlyy also submitted a report ticket in my own server, FFA Clan Hub, where we handle blacklist reports. As part of that report/blacklist process, Fastlyy screenshared his IP-adress to me so I could verify the information and determine whether it aligned with the report.

This is particularly relevant to the question of the intent.

I had therefore been shown information which was actually private/sensitive. If my intention had genuinely been to dox Fastlyy, I would have had access to information that was far more relevant to an actual doxxing allegation, yet I never disclosed, published, or used that information against him.

Instead, material used in this ban consisted of information that was already publicly accesible, including a publicly visible Linkedin picture and a publicly shared picture that Fastlyy himself had posted.

The ordinary meaning of doxxing:

This detail is also important because our understanding of the term "doxxing" was based on its ordinary meaning.

Cambridge Dictionary defines "dox/doxx" in terms of publishing private information about someone online without their permission.

Other authoritative sources use the same general distinction:

The Cornell Legal Information Institute describes doxxing as publicly releasing personal information that may identify an individual without their consent, with examples including a home address, phone number, email, workplace and family information.

The UK Government Security Group describes doxxing as searching for and publishing private or identifying information about an individual, typically without consent and malicious intent.

The U.S. Department of Justice also described a doxxing prosecution involving the publication of a restricted home address with the intent to threaten, intimidate or facilitate violence.

I`m not presenting these sources as overriding Loka`s set of rules. I`m presenting them to explain why we genuinely understood doxxing to mean the exposure of private information rather than reposting/forwarding of information that the person had voluntarily made public themselves.

We weren`t aware of Loka`s broader interpretation:

I was TODAY made aware of Rule 6.1 which states the following:

“Don’t dox another player (this includes posting their name, image etc.) even if they have shared it themselves.”

I acknowledge that this wording is broader than the ordinary definitions described above.

Before this punishment, we were not aware that Loka specifically treated reposting a player’s own publicly shared image as doxxing even when the player had voluntarily made that image public themselves.

Our understanding was that doxxing involved exposing information that was private or otherwise not legitimately available to the public.

This was therefore not an attempt to circumvent Loka’s rules or to secretly expose someone’s personal information.

We simply did not understand that Loka had chosen to apply the term “doxxing” in this broader server-specific manner.

That distinction is relevant when considering both intent and the severity of the punishment.

There was no private-information leak:

Regardless of what terminology is used, the facts listed below remain unchanged:
  • Fastlyy publicly posted his own face prior.
  • Fastlyy explicitly stated that he had sent the image himself.
  • Fastlyy explicitly stated that people could send it to others.
  • Fastlyy`s previous username containing his full name was publicly visible through username history.
  • The GIFS containing Fastlyy`s picture is from his public Linkedin profile.
  • Wesl0a’s previous username containing his first name was publicly visible through username history.
  • His Instagram profile picture was publicly visible.
  • No private source was accessed.
  • No private database was accessed.
  • No private address, phone number, IP address, school, family information or private messages were exposed.
  • We did not discover a secret piece of personal information and reveal it to the community.
Therefore, there was no private-information leak in the conventional sense of the word “doxxing”.

The AI-generated GIF`s are a seperate issue:

I also want to distinguish the doxxing allegations from the GIF`s which were AI-generated.

The publicly available images were used by someone to create AI-generated GIF`s, which where then circulated by countless amount of people and created by neither me or birb.

I am not claiming that every piece of content created from those images was appropriate.

However, whether the resulting AI content was inappropriate is separate from whether private information was leaked.

The specific reason given for our punishment was doxxing.

If Loka believes that the AI-generated content itself violated another Loka rule, that should be considered separately and under the appropriate rule.

Evidence:

I have evidence for all of the relevant facts described above.

This includes:

* the original public Discord post containing Fastlyy’s own image;
* the timestamps;
* Fastlyy’s messages confirming that he sent the image himself;
* evidence showing the public accessibility of the relevant username history;
* evidence regarding wesl0a’s publicly visible Instagram profile picture;
* and the relevant messages and context surrounding the reports.

I am going to provide the complete evidence privately to a Loka Elder (Raddus).

dc:
username: ziedend.
user id: 1303375643693809766

I would prefer to provide the complete evidence privately rather than reposting images in a public forum.



Consistency in the interpretation of Rule 6.1:

There is another point I would like Loka staff to clarify.

If the interpretation of Rule 6.1 is that an image is considered doxxing when it is reposted even if the person themselves publicly shared it, then that interpretation should be applied consistently.

For example, Summerfling has claimed that an image constitutes doxxing while also acknowledging that he himself shared the image “as a joke”.

I am not raising this simply to say “someone else did it too”.

The point is the consistency of the interpretation.

If the same publicly shared image can be considered acceptable when the person voluntarily posts it themselves, but become “doxxing” when another person reposts that same publicly available image, I would like clarification on what factual distinction Loka uses to make that determination.

This is particularly relevant because Rule 6.1 specifically states that it applies “even if they have shared it themselves”.

Another public example:

There is also another publicly available example involving a Loka player who streams.

The following YouTube video was publicly posted by iLoveYouNotLol:


The video contains material from a Loka player’s public stream and was publicly posted as a clip.

I am not presenting this as an accusation that this player should be punished.

Instead, I am asking for clarification of the distinction.

If Loka’s interpretation is that reposting publicly available material can constitute doxxing even when the person themselves originally made that material public, then how is this public example distinguished from the conduct for which we were banned?

If there is a meaningful distinction, I am completely willing to accept that distinction. I simply want the rule to be applied based on a clear and consistent standard.

Why I believe the punishment should be reconsidered:

The combination of these circumstances is why I believe the punishment deserves reconsideration.

We understood “doxxing” to mean exposing private information that someone had not voluntarily made public.

That understanding is supported by the ordinary definition of the term and by common legal descriptions of doxxing.

We were not aware that Loka applies a broader server-specific interpretation in which reposting a publicly shared image can itself constitute doxxing even when the person voluntarily published the image.

If that is Loka’s intended interpretation, we understand that now and will respect it going forward.

However, the circumstances remain important:

  • the images were already publicly available;
  • Fastlyy explicitly stated that he sent his own image and that people could send it;
  • wesl0a’s image was a publicly visible profile picture;
  • no private information was obtained or leaked;
  • no private source was involved;
  • and there are other public examples that raise legitimate questions about the consistent application of Rule 6.1.
There was no malicious attempt to obtain or expose someone’s private data.

I am therefore asking Loka staff to reconsider the punishment based on the actual facts, the evidence available, our lack of awareness of the broader interpretation of Rule 6.1, and the circumstances surrounding the incident.

I am not asking for the rules to be ignored or for special treatment.

I am asking for the distinction between actual private-information doxxing and reposting information that the subject had already voluntarily made public to be taken into account when reviewing the punishment.

I am gonna dm Raddus and provide all the other and most relevant screenshots, original posts, timestamps and other evidence on discord, since I dont want to start a drama if I send all the of the screenshots within this dispute. Thank you for your time.

Last edit: everything is good now
First of all, It is your responsibility to read the rules.

Second of all, I have neither seen nor found any evidence that SummerFling sent any photos related to me or my friend. Let me clarify this, I have not seen any action from him that made me uncomfortable. I also haven't come across any concrete evidence against him regarding this matter, unlike the fact that you still haven't deleted the GIFs despite being aware of the rules.

Also, only one of the images used to make these GIFs was personally sent by me on Discord. To access the other images, you would have to use my full name to find one of my social media accounts, then use that account to find one of my real-life friends' accounts, and take one of the photos that my friend posted.

About other person's photo, it has already been stated that my friend's photo was on Instagram. However, there is no publicly available information indicating that the Instagram account belongs to him or that the person in the photo is him. Sending the photo and revealing the person's identity is completely wrong.

All of this aside, you are not only posting these photos, but also creating GIFs with them that go as far as harassment and publishing them publicly. For example, there are AI-generated GIFs depicting my friend and me kissing each other, which you still have not removed despite clearly stating that you have read the rules.

As I said again, finding one of my social media accounts, using it to access the account of one of my real-life friends, and then finding photos that my real-life friend posted on that platform without asking me;

then accessing the social media account of my another friend from the community, despite there being no public connection between him and that account, taking his photo from there even though there is no public information or evidence linking either the account or the photo to him;

and then combining those two photos to create completely inappropriate and disturbing GIFs goes beyond doxxing and reaches the level of harassment.
 
even if knucior translated this message correctly (this isnt correctly translated but ok) you can just translate the other messages i wrote to SummerFling and see that this isn't the first time we've written about doing something bad but in a JOKING way + he literally said in his reply that he checked his messages and found nothing regarding what you wrote in your appeal

(attached is fastly's response regarding to the SummerFling segment)
Let me clarify this as well,

I said “probably not even close” because until nahwy messaged me, I had neither personally seen SummerFling share or talk about the photos anywhere nor I had seen any evidence that he had done so. When nahwy sent me this message, I had no idea what SummerFling had done. I had no evidence whatsoever that SummerFling had sent the photos (he did not), which is why I told nahwy “prob not even close.”

Later I talked to SummerFling and he told me that he had not sent the photos anywhere. Unless you have evidence proving otherwise he did not do anything wrong.
 
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