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No Plans to Implement Bedrock
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Lampp_
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Bad logic
Except, true.
mindblaster007
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I like how the Elders are like, “oh no they can cheat ahhhh”, rather than always complaining about how something could be a problem, why not find a solution for once? Why not make a custom anti-cheat rather than using COTS plugins that already only do a subpar job at detecting cheats? Sure it may be a little bit of work, but like if you pull it off, it would bring in countless new players.
I think you expect too much of the elders sometimes. Loka isnt their job, and they are balancing about a million other projects trying to make the server better. Cut them some slack here.
Some things are easier said than done.
Based on what evidence?
There is an overwhelming amount of the Java Edition playerbase that we have yet to tap.
It could be that we could look into Bedrock support in some distant future, but it's not something we are presently interested in.
Lampp_
Well-Known Member
The point about it being “Harder to PvP for them” is bad logic since if we’re going off that you’d have to disallow/ban a lot more then bedrock
mindblaster007
Well-Known Member
"Sure it may be a little bit of work, but like if you pull it off, it would bring in countless new players." ~@mindblaster007
Also, I don't expect anything from them; I'm just pointing out how null and void their stance is on this. Also worth mentioning is a custom anti-cheat that actually works with both Java and Bedrock players, which is highly desired amongst many right now. There's also the plus-side that if they do make one that works, it would be commercially profitable, which in turn would allow for them to use that income on said projects such as marketing, a developer (if they wanted), or even better server hardware. It would also allow there to be enough players that an EU proxy could become viable.
For those who don't know, Vulcan is considered to be the best anti-cheat commercially available due to the extremely extensive list of checks it performs. However, it constantly and consistently false flags players with super high ping if there is a lag spike and/or if the player is using an elytra while loading chunks. Attached below is a photo of Vulcan "detecting" a player >200 times in a second for both Timer and Jump. The player was jumping with a jump-two potion while using an elytra.
On the other hand, there are more active players on Bedrock than on Java.
This is blatantly untrue, as usual. I can think of two or three servers that use custom texturepacks and are also Bedrock/Java compatible. I'd name a few but I wouldn't want you to mute me out of spite.
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FWIW, it is not. You are also bringing up 5 month old evidence, when anticheats are updated usually quite frequently. Also false positives do not necessarily mean an anticheat is bad (every single anticheat that exists has some FPs). It is up to server owners to make informed decisions based on the feedback they get.
Are they running modern 1.20.4 with its features (scoreboard updates, etc), or just ViaVersion on an old version of MC?
doota
Active Member
vulcan is trash bro
theres like 10 clients that bypass it, ive seen cheaters on servers with vulcan as the AC it cant detect bougan
EU Loka, then Bedrock Loka
glory
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yeah bat3145 is the greatest screensharer of all time no one getting passed him