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Crisis in TerraIncognita.

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TheFreshLemon

TheFreshLemon

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Dear Loakans,

I just wanted to hear everyone's thoughts on this situation that happened recently while playing on Loka.

THE BACKSTORY​
. On October 22nd, 2019 I made my way over to TerraIncognita while rikard_renata and dreamy_faust were still online. I make it to their town and I go full invis up to their storage and dreamy had left every single door open. I get locked in the room and start filling my e-chest and then Rikard comes down, so I attack him, but he makes a quick escape. He returns and he starts bowing me back and forth as he blocks up spaces. I asked him if this room had changed and he responded with “It’s one of those secrets” and “correct”. I go over to the brewers for pots and see these tunnels, one leads to a dead end and the other right outside the mountain to freedom. I go back in and Rikard manages to block me in preventing me from getting there again and I’m trapped for good. Finally, he blocks me up in a corner and bows me to death. Later I go back with Arc this time and managed to kill dreamy as he logged. Dreamy, Rikard, and ACWavelength all come online and we flee the scene.

PRESENT
Hours later we (Arc, Mario, and myself) return once they all left and start transporting goods in our g-chest and shulkers clearing out their whole storage, but then all of the sudden “[19:55:30] [main/INFO]: [CHAT] [Local] Skuhoo: I hate to be the bearer of bad news but this is town betrayal”. This tunnel was supposedly a TOWN BETRAYAL?! This man blocked me up, broke those blocks, extended his brewers to a room behind them for the Redstone, but couldn’t see the tunnel up to the surface? Don’t forget dreamy saw me when I entered and then logged off and I killed him, yet you still don’t block this tunnel? This town has been “raidable” for months probably since it was born, but this tunnel is a town betrayal? This town has doors unlocked, holes in walls, stairs in the front to walk up to, gates that can be opened, walls that can be jumped from the mountainside, and you can tower up and hop over. Rikard simply doesn't care about his town being safe because nothing changes.

CONCLUSION​
We believe that we shouldn’t have to return the items because dreamy logged as he saw me enter, leaving his NPC to die. Then Rikard is blocking up and going through chest looking for pots, but misses this tunnel? Not to mention Rikard and none of his town members have reported this tunnel or called town betrayal and we don’t even know who made this tunnel. Other towns have been raided with tunnels, but town betrayal was never called so why should this one? We’d like to hear your thoughts on this thanks for taking your time and reading this post.
 
There's some real misinformed views here.

The player in question, Poclular (aka the SilverhandBandit) has been banned four times for town betrayal. They were tempbanned after betraying Silverhand, Alyium, Vinovia, and finally permanently banned after TerraIncognita. Every single instance of this player town betraying is the same. They join a town, dig ways into areas with loot, and eventually leave the town so that they can raid it. Whether or not you conspired with them is irrelevant. All that matters is that the tunnel was created with the express intent of making TerraIncognita's storage room raidable. Based on multiple past cases involving Poclular this is undoubtedly the case.

The tunnel was nestled behind an autobrewer, an area that was dug out months ago. The tunnel itself was under two weeks old. Dismissing obvious town betrayal because two players, one of whom is effectively brand new with just a few hours of playtime, didn't notice a non-obvious tunnel is ridiculous. Unless your argument is that Rikard noticed the tunnel but chose not to patch it, which would be insane.

You guys get a judgment from me you don't like, so you decide to shop around for a different one from various staff. When that doesn't work out you write up a complaint thread? Come on guys, this is textbook town betrayal and your response to the situation is disappointing to say the least.
 
Skuhoo said:
There's some real misinformed views here.

The player in question, Poclular (aka the SilverhandBandit) has been banned four times for town betrayal. They were tempbanned after betraying Silverhand, Alyium, Vinovia, and finally permanently banned after TerraIncognita. Every single instance of this player town betraying is the same. They join a town, dig ways into areas with loot, and eventually leave the town so that they can raid it. Whether or not you conspired with them is irrelevant. All that matters is that the tunnel was created with the express intent of making TerraIncognita's storage room raidable. Based on multiple past cases involving Poclular this is undoubtedly the case.

The tunnel was nestled behind an auto brewer, an area that was dug out months ago. The tunnel itself was under two weeks old. Dismissing obvious town betrayal because two players, one of whom is effectively brand new with just a few hours of playtime, didn't notice a non-obvious tunnel is ridiculous. Unless your argument is that Rikard noticed the tunnel but chose not to patch it, which would be insane.

You guys get a judgment from me you don't like, so you decide to shop around for a different one from various staff. When that doesn't work out you write up a complaint thread? Come on guys, this is textbook town betrayal and your response to the situation is disappointing, to say the least.
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That wasn't there months ago because I was there a month ago and half of that wasn't there. Why I included me asking rikard those questions. Why'd Poclular stupidly make two different tunnels one leading to a dead-end? Neither were there until now.

"Unless your argument is that Rikard noticed the tunnel but chose not to patch it, which would be insane."

How would this be insane?
"I go over to the brewers for pots and see these tunnels, one leads to a dead end and the other right outside the mountain to freedom. I go back in and Rikard manages to block me in preventing me from getting there again and I’m trapped for good." Once again dreamy SAW ME ENTER in which he managed to log off (log off not /logout) so I killed his NPC. So no this isn't insane and rikard hasn't patched any of these "breaches".

"You guys get a judgment from me you don't like, so you decide to shop around for a different one from various staff. When that doesn't work out you write up a complaint thread? Come on guys, this is textbook town betrayal and your response to the situation is disappointing, to say the least."
No. I simply asked around and ask for people's answers or thoughts because we didn't get answers from you. We asked who did it and never got an answer, until now. I started to write this thread last night but got too tired to post it so I posted in the morning.

Can we get the list then?
 
TheFreshLemon said:
That wasn't there months ago because I was there a month ago and half of that wasn't there. Why I included me asking rikard those questions. Why'd Poclular stupidly make two different tunnels one leading to a dead-end? Neither were there until now.
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ACwavelength carved out the room and built the autobrewer over 3 months ago. The tunnel created by Poclular was 12 days old.

TheFreshLemon said:
"Unless your argument is that Rikard noticed the tunnel but chose not to patch it, which would be insane."

How would this be insane?

"I go over to the brewers for pots and see these tunnels, one leads to a dead end and the other right outside the mountain to freedom. I go back in and Rikard manages to block me in preventing me from getting there again and I’m trapped for good." Once again dreamy SAW ME ENTER in which he managed to log off (log off not /logout) so I killed his NPC. So no this isn't insane and rikard hasn't patched any of these "breaches".
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Does it really need to be explained why it'd be insane if a town owner saw a direct tunnel from the surface into their storage room and chose not to close it up? Considering the area Rikard blocked you off was in the actual storage room and not near the tunnel, your entire premise rests on a practically new player's ability to understand what's going on and what to do when they start getting killed from inside their town. Considering that you said "That dreamy guy is like new and left every door open", it's clear you know that they're new, but you insist on using their lack of action in your argument for some reason.

TheFreshLemon said:
"You guys get a judgment from me you don't like, so you decide to shop around for a different one from various staff. When that doesn't work out you write up a complaint thread? Come on guys, this is textbook town betrayal and your response to the situation is disappointing, to say the least."
No. I simply asked around and ask for people's answers or thoughts because we didn't get answers from you. We asked who did it and never got an answer, until now. I started to write this thread last night but got too tired to post it so I posted in the morning.
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What questions were asked that you didn't get an answer to? The messages to other staff by yourself and Arc were clearly written in an attempt to get a more favorable judgement and in both the only questions were ones that I had already answered.
 
While I've always been an advocate for seeking the community for opinions when you feel things were mishandled, when you disagree with a ruling from a guardian you should seek out Crypt/Magpie on the subject matter and not another guardian. All you were doing was akin to "Asking mom because dad said no and mom tends to be more lenient" which is something attempted multiple times previously when this group disagrees with a ruling.

I understand your frustrations because you lost out on an #EpicRaid due to actions that you didn't do yourselves; however, as with all cases of town betrayal anything that is lost due to said town betrayal will be returned. This protects towns from the actions of one malignant member being able to cripple a town in this way.

Hope this doesn't discourage you from continuing along with the majority of the community in their successful tales of raiding TerraIncognita :sweetbread:
 
I would like to state that Terra has a good Owner. She has been on patching holes in the town when ever she finds them. Purposely not patching them isn’t something she would do.
 
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She’s knows about it and hasn’t gotten around to it... she’s a person with an actual life, unlike you. I know it’s hard to believe that someone could have a life outside of Loka, not be inside their parents attic 24/7, and wasting all their parents cash on Loka Orbs and subscriptions to PlayBoy. Your screenshot doesn’t show anything except for the fact that she has a life.
 
mindblaster007 said:
She’s knows about it and hasn’t gotten around to it... she’s a person with an actual life, unlike you. I know it’s hard to believe that someone could have a life outside of Loka, not be inside their parents attic 24/7, and wasting all their parents cash on Loka Orbs and subscriptions to PlayBoy. Your screenshot doesn’t show anything except for the fact that she has a life.
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I smell a smell. A toxic smell.

who are you to judge how is someone living?
 
mindblaster007 said:
She’s knows about it and hasn’t gotten around to it... she’s a person with an actual life, unlike you. I know it’s hard to believe that someone could have a life outside of Loka, not be inside their parents attic 24/7, and wasting all their parents cash on Loka Orbs and subscriptions to PlayBoy. Your screenshot doesn’t show anything except for the fact that she has a life.
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That doesn’t make sense

our wall isn’t getting done but I still don’t have a life
 
mindblaster007 said:
She’s knows about it and hasn’t gotten around to it... she’s a person with an actual life, unlike you. I know it’s hard to believe that someone could have a life outside of Loka, not be inside their parents attic 24/7, and wasting all their parents cash on Loka Orbs and subscriptions to PlayBoy. Your screenshot doesn’t show anything except for the fact that she has a life.
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I don't have a life that is true and I won't deny it. First of all I don't have an attic I have a crawl space and I play in my bedroom at my desk. I haven't bought anything on Loka or Minecraft in my years of playing especially not with my parents money. I also believe that rikard is a male not a female, feel free to ask for me. The screenshot shows that there has been a big chunk of wall missing for a while. Idk why I made this post I was angry, but it's all been settled with and I no longer bother Terra as of right now. o/

Rikard or any Terra members feel free to fix these.

The big chunk of wall
The door next to the watchtower is open
The doors to the Iron keep were open
You can use Jump boost in the windows of Iron keep to get in
Stairs at the front gate
The front gate can be opened using that button so block the button
Build up your walls/Move them because you can walk in, jump in from the mountain, or simply block up.
Yw!
 
The walls were there since before I joined, so I wouldn't know about a chunk of them missing. Sofatroll is working on the iron keep at the moment, so anything that goes on there is up to him really. I don't even know which watchtower you are talking about, there's a few. Also, if you really wanted to help, maybe you shouldn't have posted these things in a public forum.
 
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