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Custom Tree Growth in the New World

What type of tree should grow from a sapling in the New World

  • Only default Minecraft trees

    Votes: 3 10.7%
  • Only custom trees like the rest

    Votes: 9 32.1%
  • Chance of either

    Votes: 16 57.1%

  • Total voters
    28

Cryptite

Elder
Staff member
Elder
For context, none of the trees in the New World will be default Minecraft trees. Every one (as such) will be a custom tree. We feel this'll better bring home the bacon on having awesome custom terrain.

Laz brought up an interesting point. Currently, if we don't change anything, and trees planted with saplings will grow into a default Minecraft tree. It is possible, however, to instead spawn a random custom tree of that sapling type.

This would mess with some tree farms and additionally could... destroy blocks as Minecraft will be spawning a tree it knows can 'fit' whereas if we intercept that and spawn in a possibly bigger tree, it could overwrite some blocks. I 'suppose' I could make it aware of the blocks it's spawning in and ensure that custom tree growth only spawns in blocks where this is air.

The poll is of course, what should we do here? What would you prefer?
 
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Patukott

New Member
The trees in the package you posted had small and big variants, so it would be nice if planted saplings would grow to the smaller size first and then to the bigger one if left untouched.
If that is impossible to make then another possi ility is if people could only grow the smaller variants which don't mess with the world as much as the bigger ones but that forests still had a way of regenerating the bigger variants themselves. Otherwise I feel that the custom forests would have a very short lifespan.
 

Lazuli73

Well-Known Member
Slicer
I think it would be interesting of we only have saplings grow custom trees. I think this would prevent people from making a tree farms, thus restricting people from going out to a forest and collecting wood like loggers in the real world. If we had it so that people had to go outside their town to collect wood from a regenerating forest, not only would that be more realistic, but also increase player interaction.
 

Cryptite

Elder
Staff member
Elder
I think it would be interesting of we only have saplings grow custom trees. I think this would prevent people from making a tree farms, thus restricting people from going out to a forest and collecting wood like loggers in the real world. If we had it so that people had to go outside their town to collect wood from a regenerating forest, not only would that be more realistic, but also increase player interaction.

Your wording escapes me here... Are you suggesting that we can't make tree farms in some way...?
 

Lazuli73

Well-Known Member
Slicer
Your wording escapes me here... Are you suggesting that we can't make tree farms in some way...?

I'm to saying they can't, but it would be difficult to because of the custom tree shapes. It would make a efficient tree farm almost impossible and would be easier to just go out to a forest.
 

Wolfegger

Active Member
Slicer
I didn't realize you were trying to make wood harder to get--only to make certain trees not on one's continent harder to get (requiring one to trade or go to other continents).

I think this poll should only be taken using people who have chopped down the versions of the new trees. If it is a royal PIA, then I would rather have the saplings that we plant make traditional trees (that is how I voted).
 

Cryptite

Elder
Staff member
Elder
I like the idea that trees that spawn from saplings are the smaller variants. That seems fair.
 

Magpieman

Old One
Staff member
Old One
Has anyone considered all of the floating trees that may show up when people only cut the bottom 6 blocks of a custom tree. I don't think I could handle walking in a forest of floating trees. Also we will need a way for forests to generate new custom trees.
 

Toiongo

Member
Slicer
I don't know if that's technically possible, but what if you'd make custom trees only grow from saplings in custom forests ? That'd not mess with tree farms and would allow people to replant mentioned forests on their own.
 

Cryptite

Elder
Staff member
Elder
Has anyone considered all of the floating trees that may show up when people only cut the bottom 6 blocks of a custom tree. I don't think I could handle walking in a forest of floating trees. Also we will need a way for forests to generate new custom trees.

In fairness, this happens anyway. There're loads of floating trees in Loka.

Do agree about handling forest regrowth though.
 

Strongeee

Member
Slicer
I 'suppose' I could make it aware of the blocks it's spawning in and ensure that custom tree growth only spawns in blocks where this is air.

My idea that others probs have:
1 sap = Small tree
4 saps = Large tree

Small trees require a certain amount of space to grow and large requires more of a space. Have a template set for custom trees maybe? So you can say 6x6x6 could be a small tree and when people go to grow that size of a tree it can give out an error message if there is air within 6x6x6 area. So people can go and make that small tree in that amount of space. For already designed trees maybe try and fit the size with the already existing trees people have made c:
 

Lazuli73

Well-Known Member
Slicer
For a regenerating forest we could just make it regrow trees in the exact same spot to simplify things. The best time to have the regeneration process take place is when the server is at its lowest point in daily activity.
 

Artagan

Active Member
Slicer
What if someone builds in the forest? Will trees just regenerate through whatever they built?
 

Magpieman

Old One
Staff member
Old One
In fairness, this happens anyway. There're loads of floating trees in Loka.

Do agree about handling forest regrowth though.

I guess what I meant was that custom trees will generally be a lot bigger and more troublesome to cut down so we would see far more floating.
 

Cryptite

Elder
Staff member
Elder
Perhaps saplings placed in the world that aren't specifically in towns will regrow to be any variant of trees found in that area. Anybody can then re-seed the land to their liking.
 

Toiongo

Member
Slicer
Perhaps saplings placed in the world that aren't specifically in towns will regrow to be any variant of trees found in that area. Anybody can then re-seed the land to their liking.
That's exactly what i meant when i've wrote this:
I don't know if that's technically possible, but what if you'd make custom trees only grow from saplings in custom forests ? That'd not mess with tree farms and would allow people to replant mentioned forests on their own.
Why u ignore me Crypt ? :(

What if someone specifically wants to grow custom trees inside their town and builds one in a custom biome?
 

Cryptite

Elder
Staff member
Elder
That's exactly what i meant when i've wrote this:

Why u ignore me Crypt ? :(

What if someone specifically wants to grow custom trees inside their town and builds one in a custom biome?

Sorry :(

Perhaps we can sell a special biome-specific bonemeal that grows custom trees instead of regular ones.
 
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