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[SerKnight02]

Ehy, i've been asked to write about this in a forum post so here i am. I'm aware that under here there will be mostly comments against this, but that's normal since those who actively use the forum are mostly from north america. The idea of an european hosted loka has been in my mind for a little more than a year. I talked to Cryptite on discord about it and he has always said that an european loka would be highly unlikely, but that we could have a discussion about it if there was an overwhelming support. Last year i started a petition on change.org (cringe) and got around 14 signs, so i just gave up the idea and started playing anyways, creating my own town which was called Spaghetto. I got around 20 italian players to join and play on it, but after a while the town became inactive and my members had quit because they didn't like pvping with 110 +ms. This experience still allowed me to understand how loka works and i just liked it even more. As an european town, we had set the vulnerability time in our afternoon, but we basically didn't match any other vuln time other than seagull shores so there were little to no fights. After the town fell, i've sometimes tried to join fights but they're mostly around 12pm-1am so again i couldn't play as much as i wanted to. I knew other guys were in the exact same situation as me, so i've decided trying making this work once again.When asked if he could move the host, Cryptite replied We probably wouldn't have an EU Loka until it was a standalone version just in the EU. And then to do that we'd need to have enough of a population where splitting the pop wouldn't be bad for the overall community. I was and I am decided to give the overwhelming support is needed to create an Eu Loka. This time i had created a discord server as a petition which currently has 73 members in it, 51 of those either aren't verified in the loka discord server or haven't even joined it (yes i've counted it by hand through shared servers). If you want to take a look by yourself here's the discord link https://discord.gg/HBJfqHbbxH but if you wouldn't play on the eu server please leave since we're counting on it. The main arguments against this is that it would split the community, which would be in part true but mostly false, since the community would grow getting back those european players who had left the server because of the issues i've already talked about plus the normal growth of new players a server like Loka would have. They say that already playing european players are used to the lag and won't bother moving from na loka to eu loka, but imo that's just normal and completely fine since they still have the choice on where to play. I do understand that creating a standalone loka would be time and money consuming, but it would allow more people to play on here and it wouldn't be as hard as creating a brand new server, since you already got a name, a community and plugins. I've also talked about an eu proxy, but it has already been tried and as Cryptite said, makes traffic worse typically.

 

[Cryptite]

We chose to move Loka to Montreal when we upgraded the box both for the better overall hosting as well as better and more stable connections to both US and EU. The New York corridor constantly has ping instability issues due to congestion as well as often being the target of large-scale DDOS attacks which can hurt everyone hosted in the area.

 

[SerKnight02]

-1 even as an EU player I don't think this is enough of a problem to need a whole new server

You have been playing for a really long time and have gotten used to it, new players just aren't and will quit the server because they lag. Not having an eu host cuts off the vast majority of new eu players since very very few will go through the effort of getting used to this

 

[Hairysonic]

-1 EU Players can handle it, this server is american dominated. I enjoy it with 100ms you need to get use to not everything is surrounded by you. Us EU are a lot smaller then the americans and i rather deal with it as a minority then the majority deals with it, you can still get kills etc. None of the EUS i brought in complain about lag since it isn't a issue.

 

[Constantine10]

I'm an EU player and if I'm honest I don't really care about the ping what so ever I get 90-100 and that's fine , I can still pvp like everyone else and the disadvantage is hardly noticeable some may even argue the high ping is a advantage.

 

[IgnFry]

yes because i get 150ms on eu

 

[SerKnight02]

It's understandable that those who already play are against this. But even if you don't care about the lag because you've gotten used to it or just don't care, wouldn't you like to have most if not all the fights happen with you having the chance of joining without going asleep too late? Again, this suggestion isn't meant to divide the community, even tho you've said on your own that europeans are a minority so it wouldn't be divided as much. This suggestion, if implemented in the future, will make the community grow even more, since you'd get back those who've left and you'd have the normal growth a server like loka could have. What i mean with this is that when a gamemode is competitive, people call others to group up, even just for fights, increasing the need of farming leading to recruiting farmers or simply playing more. Also loka already has a name and videos, trailers, montages have already been made so it would be easier to get new players

 

[Dictiooo]

We chose to move Loka to Montreal when we upgraded the box both for the better overall hosting as well as better and more stable connections to both US and EU. The New York corridor constantly has ping instability issues due to congestion as well as often being the target of large-scale DDOS attacks which can hurt everyone hosted in the area.

and yet i still get 1000 ms on loka

 

[jakeman5]

I wanted to quickly add onto this. I think it is great that you are trying to show that there is interest from the EU players. I think the best thing that you can do right now to rationalize adding an EU proxy (which seems like the best option) is to keep showing Loka to new players. The more players that consistently play along with the more donations that come into Loka the more feasible the idea of a proxy is.

 

[SerKnight02]

Hi, i've actually talked in private with cryptite about a proxy, but as he said those generally makes traffic worse. There are alternatives that do indeed reduce a bit the lag and make the server in general more stable, but as they said earlier, those are pricey. And even if they were to be added they might shave off 10-30ms, which would surely help but i don't think they're nearly enough. Also the timezone issues won't be solved, so i'd actually rather having to wait a little more and get the whole thing instead of the proxy being added. It was also already added for a while but they got removed. Also quick update on the petition, we are now 85 in the discord

 

[Lurnn]

Hi, i've actually talked in private with cryptite about a proxy, but as he said those generally makes traffic worse. There are alternatives that do indeed reduce a bit the lag and make the server in general more stable, but as they said earlier, those are pricey. And even if they were to be added they might shave off 10-30ms, which would surely help but i don't think they're nearly enough. Also the timezone issues won't be solved, so i'd actually rather having to wait a little more and get the whole thing instead of the proxy being added. It was also already added for a while but they got removed. Also quick update on the petition, we are now 85 in the discord

just saying, you noted that timezones were an issue but Regional Power and Best In The Souths current vulns and recent fights are perfectly suited for europeans.