+1 whoever is building the ranked maps clearly doesn't play ranked there are so many cheese locations on half the ranked maps in rotation you can buff drain on the cherry blossom one and there are a few spots in walls like in the picture you sent before. Also the newer forest map they added is all fine except that you can just ledge pot your opponent. Atp i would be more than fine playing on a flat box ranked map
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Implemented new maps and elo thresholds for ranks / elo
- Thread starter ceeew
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I do agree about maps where you can just outrun your opponent literally the entire time, but as we've said countless times before, it is our strong feeling that players who need a pure-flat pvp arena with no obstacles are objectively worse than others because they cannot adapt to terrain.
make the top of skuhoos head an arena
ceeew
New Member
if i wanted to pvp with terrain i could just go to proving grounds or c train, ranked should be about actual player vs player rather than whoever can play around the map the best
RezzaOT
Member
SO REAL WTF
thats... the point of fighting ranked matches. To find out who is the better pvper. There is more skill to fighting than clicking the top of heads and potting.
opelafer
Active Member
skill isnt running circles around the map to drain peoples buffs either make that bannable or remove the maps where this is possible and just remove all unnecessary terrain where if youre stuck in a corner you dont have enough headspace to crit
Then don't let them drain you of your buffs? If its working for them, then its a legitimate strategy. You gotta adapt, and if you don't, then you fall behind, simple enough.
EDIT: This idea could be pretty cool if we did eventually want flat arenas.
Super edit: Opinion changed, I don't think that the arenas gain an awful lot when they have mainly obstacles and much height variation and I wouldn't be surprised if they changed to be more flat in the future over time just because it's what people push for. It's kind of subjective which is better in terms of skill though.
Super edit: Opinion changed, I don't think that the arenas gain an awful lot when they have mainly obstacles and much height variation and I wouldn't be surprised if they changed to be more flat in the future over time just because it's what people push for. It's kind of subjective which is better in terms of skill though.
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opelafer
Active Member
“then dont let them drain your buffs” bro what can i do when i just rebuff cus i think its a normal 1v1 and then they start running circles around the map? nobody wants to sit in a duel for 5 minutes just to lose to some player running around draining buffs. its actually so annoying when that happens and ur acting like its some strategy because its working for them
Tedzi_
Active Member
cherry springs and lush valley, any map that has a big circle that you can run around
ceeew
New Member
you dont play ranked why even comment something this ignorant
idont see that happening. I get that flat maps are better for pvp, and i do get mad in my own map cuz of the corners(an error that i made, and i will try not to make again on future maps), but making superflat maps is no brainer, i dont see no one talking bad about fighting in tiles who are definitely not super flat and the reason is because the tiles are huge with allot of space to pvp(and ofc also because of kb and pearls), my idea is starting making ranked maps more bigger(but not to big otherwise players can just ran away lol) and less claustrophobic, so things like UghBraces said wont happen ''i get in corners just by turning arround to pot''. The reason of all this drama about terrain change is simply because server got more famous and allot of ppl that do tier tests and play on ffa servers with superflat maps are not accustomed with this type of maps! (And yes i do play ranked)
(And also with no circle in the middle to prevent ppl running arround to waste buffs)
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Ranked should be a showcase of the raw skill level between players, the outcome of matches shouldn't be swayed by poorly designed maps with weird corners and ledges.
I understand the current maps have had a lot of effort put into them to make them visually pleasing, but no one is stopping mid ranked duel to admire the scenery.
Almost, if not every tournament in the last few years has been hosted in a flat and clear arena, made by the players themselves because of the rare titles at stake. No one ever said "I think there should be some trees or a cave over there". If Loka's most prestigious PVP title of Champion is fought for under these conditions, why shouldn't Hero also be? This is what the players themselves are doing when given the control.
I suggest a competitive pool of maps be created for ranked, whilst retaining the existing maps for casual duels. Flatter maps with less awkward corners is a step in the right direction to reward players who spend the time improving their mechanical skill rather than those who rely on weird cheesy playstyles.
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We have new maps incoming, have removed bits of maps that allow for endless kiting, and will be showing elo rating (as a value of like +100, meaning you are 100 over the bedrock min rating).
Also a change to placement matches to hopefully make them a bit more accurate.
Our stance on flat maps however remains unchanged.
Also a change to placement matches to hopefully make them a bit more accurate.
Our stance on flat maps however remains unchanged.