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Rules Ignored, Decisions Arbitrary: Staff Inconsistency on Map Arts
Banks
Active Member
@Cryptite WHY WIOULD YOU GET RIUD OF THE SABRINA CARPETNER MAP ART I WAS ABOUT TO DROP 200K SHARDS (All of oscars money ofc) AND THEN I FIND OUT FROM JM5 YOU DESPAWNED IT WTFD WHY WOIUULD YOU DO THAT I WANTED THART SO MUCH I WAS BEGGING IN THE SV DUISCORD DAILY FOR IT AND YIU JUST RUINED MY DAY
I GRW;T'P.
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SAKDEL
New Member
"You're suggesting that merely anime children is against the rules? Why would you suggest this?"
Do u genuinely type just for the sake of it? We've had so many maparts be nuked that people put time and effort into with 0 explanation maybe try defining your rules, give examples of whats allowed and what isnt isntead of nuking people's stuff just because the definition of "sexual" or "explicit" changes day to day for the staff team.
Hyperspeed
Member
these issues are remnants of a old system, and it needs to change. As loka has grown, it has begun to become a brand with a reputation/image to protect. following this shift, i don't think the server can continue to operate under the pretense of precedents that are flawed and inconsistent. i believe recent cases - like this collection of disputes regarding obscenity have exposed a lack of consistency in rule enforcement. This inconsistency, combined with a lack of transparency that can be viewed in cases like the BTB & daqniel disputes creates a substantiated community-wide skepticism in whether punishments are fair, proportional, or just.
Although this case is just a matter of where different staff member's personal opinions lie on a spectrum of "what is obscenity", and it could have been avoided easily by taking the most extreme interpretation, it exposes a flaw in this system built on precedents that come from an era where transparency and consistency wasn't an administrative priority. loka cannot selectively enforce precedents like confidentiality or obscenity, while simultaneously relying on precedents to dictate bans (for example, those regarding win trading).
Regardless of how effective the system is - i.e., i personally agree this is probably obscene, and the other aforementioned cases are probably justified - the ambiguity of a concrete reason or flaw to point to is a real issue for both individual actors and the community. How can members of the present community know what behaviors to avoid, when nothing is standardized? How can penalized individuals dispute their punishment without knowing their charge? How can wrong people know what or how to reform, without specifically knowing what they did wrong? (and, a little bit of a digression, but what is the point of having disputes go on a public forum if justice is just dealt with internally?)
i think we need more consistent enforcement; we need consistency with real, transparent metrics that fit the needs of the server as it exists today, not as it existed years ago; transparent details that can be thoroughly discussed to build real, strong precedents instead of idiosyncratic ones.
ps: i think this post kind of turned into a rant, but its just my crude personal opinion that i havent had time to refine or discuss with others. it probably needs clarification but idk if ill even remember what i meant when it comes to that; still, id love to hear the feedback/comments on this take
Although this case is just a matter of where different staff member's personal opinions lie on a spectrum of "what is obscenity", and it could have been avoided easily by taking the most extreme interpretation, it exposes a flaw in this system built on precedents that come from an era where transparency and consistency wasn't an administrative priority. loka cannot selectively enforce precedents like confidentiality or obscenity, while simultaneously relying on precedents to dictate bans (for example, those regarding win trading).
Regardless of how effective the system is - i.e., i personally agree this is probably obscene, and the other aforementioned cases are probably justified - the ambiguity of a concrete reason or flaw to point to is a real issue for both individual actors and the community. How can members of the present community know what behaviors to avoid, when nothing is standardized? How can penalized individuals dispute their punishment without knowing their charge? How can wrong people know what or how to reform, without specifically knowing what they did wrong? (and, a little bit of a digression, but what is the point of having disputes go on a public forum if justice is just dealt with internally?)
i think we need more consistent enforcement; we need consistency with real, transparent metrics that fit the needs of the server as it exists today, not as it existed years ago; transparent details that can be thoroughly discussed to build real, strong precedents instead of idiosyncratic ones.
ps: i think this post kind of turned into a rant, but its just my crude personal opinion that i havent had time to refine or discuss with others. it probably needs clarification but idk if ill even remember what i meant when it comes to that; still, id love to hear the feedback/comments on this take