Situations like these need to be handled with care. These guys have had beef for years, I don't put anything past either of them. As long as these possibilities exist, it's illogical to go through with the provided evidence.
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Vexaay's Ban Appeal - Griefing (Town Betrayal) + Ban Evasion
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Your entire argument seems to be "things can be fake, so everything's fake!" It's a convenient, battle-tested strategy these days, even if it's a weak one. You don't really have any information how we fact check things or even really debate these things internally, other than to assume we don't, and don't do it well. It's a perfectly fine opinion to have, but not one we are required to consider.
I wonder why Vexaay himself hasn't come forth to debunk Lurrn's allegedly faked screenshots.
Zaidgvv
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Bro what you really think lurrn would tokenlog vexaay, get into his account, have a conversation with himself via the vexaay account and his own, send inappropriate messages to himself and screenshot them so he can keep vexaay banned?? That's kinda stretching it don't you think
We both know that's not my argument. I've said why I believe this form of evidence is unreliable, and have provided a way for you to confirm them to be real/fake.
Correct. I have no idea how you discuss these things, but looking at the history of appeals, I can see it's not very effective. Is your internal debating going to change the reality?
Vexaay's Ban Appeal - Griefing (Town Betrayal) + Ban Evasion
I'm curious what you think of Vexaay's behavior in his screenshots? Cryptite, respectfully, we have reached an impasse in regards to the way staff handle appeals. https://forums.lokamc.com/threads/are-slicers-allowed-to-say-n-word-lurrn-cryptite.6487/post-71381 If you could kindly read the...
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"This isn't just pertaining to Vexaay but in general with all users in mind. So many loopholes possible and I can't see why staff would concern themselves with this can of worms."Bro what you really think lurrn would tokenlog vexaay, get into his account, have a conversation with himself via the vexaay account and his own, send inappropriate messages to himself and screenshot them so he can keep vexaay banned?? That's kinda stretching it don't you think
The method is flawed, period.
Adrett
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You want me to be straight up? The screenshots Lurnn sent aren't real. I've been trying to distance myself from this pointless drama but you seem insistent on directly confronting me on them. There is no fact checking or internal debating to be done: all my messages from that server were deleted a while ago (for reasons completely unrelated to this). I'm only replying now because all the staff seem to believe whatever Lurnn says and it's honestly so toxic.
You haven't done your due diligence.
You can't prove anything.
The only thing you've accomplished is showing the community how blind your trust is in anything Lurnn says.
Thanks everyone, for turning this simple appeal into a forums war.
Loka is a server I want to play again; It's been 2 years, and I'm only asking for one more chance.
You haven't done your due diligence.
You can't prove anything.
The only thing you've accomplished is showing the community how blind your trust is in anything Lurnn says.
Thanks everyone, for turning this simple appeal into a forums war.
Loka is a server I want to play again; It's been 2 years, and I'm only asking for one more chance.
I've known Vexaay ever since 2016. I've seen him grow and gone through rough patches with him, beefed with him, but he's gotten older and he's also gotten more mature.
What I don't understand is why there is so much opposition against giving him a second chance, especially after the amount of time that has passed. Can you really judge a whole person off of a forum post? Are you going to tell me that my friend who I've known for seven years acts like how he's showed here every where, all the time?
You guys have taken the worst of Vexaay and made it his whole character, when he is nothing like that at all. Vexaay doesn't deserve to have his chance to get unbanned wasted because lurnn and vex don't like each other. I say this because he is like this to literally nobody else. He is a good person.
He is banned because he griefed noobville's town, and for ban evasion a year ago which he told nobody about and didn't even play Loka on. All these things being brought up today are irrelevant to the reason he was banned. People give opinions too quick on screenshots that are so easy to fake these days it's the most common thing to get fake screenshots of discord.
You guys don't know Vexaay and yet you are so adamant on gatekeeping him out of the community. Just give him a chance to show who he is.
What I don't understand is why there is so much opposition against giving him a second chance, especially after the amount of time that has passed. Can you really judge a whole person off of a forum post? Are you going to tell me that my friend who I've known for seven years acts like how he's showed here every where, all the time?
You guys have taken the worst of Vexaay and made it his whole character, when he is nothing like that at all. Vexaay doesn't deserve to have his chance to get unbanned wasted because lurnn and vex don't like each other. I say this because he is like this to literally nobody else. He is a good person.
He is banned because he griefed noobville's town, and for ban evasion a year ago which he told nobody about and didn't even play Loka on. All these things being brought up today are irrelevant to the reason he was banned. People give opinions too quick on screenshots that are so easy to fake these days it's the most common thing to get fake screenshots of discord.
You guys don't know Vexaay and yet you are so adamant on gatekeeping him out of the community. Just give him a chance to show who he is.
A lot of people don't know that lurnn baits so many people in hope he gets screenshots and shit. People call him passive aggressive for a reason too.
I'm telling you now that Vexaay is not someone who will be harmful to the community. 80% of Lokans have no idea who he is and can't form a full opinion. The only way you'll know is if you let him back.
If he's really as toxic as you all think he is, he'll just get himself banned again in a month for dumb shit, which I'm confident he won't do. Why take away his chance? It's been two years
Lampp_
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For the love of god can you come to a actual decision on this your saying vexaay should come bicker magpie says no you shouldn’t
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Bad news for you bud. I sent them the audit logs
crazy watching lurnn expose vexaay like he isn’t the same or tqmen defending vexaay like he isn’t more temperamental over the game than vexaay
my only experiences with vexaay are negative and with him tacking onto the harassment lurnn and tqmen have both taken part in, along with their cliques which basically overlap into the same group
its probably best if people stop giving boosted replies based off who he will fight for when hes pardoned and actually be honest even if you’re worried that your multi year minecraft friendship will end over it. but if you insist on lying about vexaay as a person on forums, maybe don’t comment
my only experiences with vexaay are negative and with him tacking onto the harassment lurnn and tqmen have both taken part in, along with their cliques which basically overlap into the same group
its probably best if people stop giving boosted replies based off who he will fight for when hes pardoned and actually be honest even if you’re worried that your multi year minecraft friendship will end over it. but if you insist on lying about vexaay as a person on forums, maybe don’t comment
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thanks for sharing
mob mentality yelling with his friends at anyone that says something negative isn’t the way. crypt wants him to defend accusations in a cordial manner and if he can’t then don’tFor the love of god can you come to a actual decision on this your saying vexaay should come bicker magpie says no you shouldn’t
Wait but what did you actually reply for? what has this to do with his unban appeal? besides that me being "temperamental" doesn't have anything to do with my reply, this is just my opinion and I can post it. "its probably best if people stop giving boosted replies based off who he will fight for when hes pardoned" hahhahahahahahahaah this is pure comedy.
based? based on what.
Zaidgvv
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Thanks for repeating the exact same thing that has been said multiple times in this thread you really added value to the conversation!
Gragra
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may I ask where did you have any experiences with vexaay
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