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Suggestion Do something about alters and cheaters

Obstinance

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Muted
It's almost like we had this on the server many years ago and it made it unplayable while cheaters could still run wild
i genuinely dont know what server this was or is i did not play it, lunar is the first client ive ever downloaded besides wurst 1.7.10

I just wanted to get rid of cheaters. eldritchbot 2fa, verify your eldritchbot profile customize it add comments etc. make it like namemc x steam profiles
 
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capybara

Active Member
Muted
honestly just ss more? Like I know ur guys's chats are full of lets ss this ss that there is a new ocean bug there is this there is that but bro you guys said there are new guardians learning ss what is taking them 3 months to learn how to ask someone to download anydesk. If there was more screenshares I definitely think that there would be more players banned.

Obstinance made this post cause of the kalros fight we had full of cheaters, and obuth was literally there too, like there is no way he couldnt tell they were cheating.

Like sometimes Loka Staff actually does a good job on hackers but sometimes i feel like they are letting it slide cause there is no way.
Ok I am pretty sure the main reason admins don't ss is because of privacy
if someone has confidential information on their computer/pc they might not want that shown to the average admin on their favorite server..
 

bat3415

Well-Known Member
Staff member
Elder
he actually nailed this, we fought against pure cheaters and alters and a town that’s never won a contested conquest fight until that night. and obuth literally fought in it like whats the point in being a guardian if you tell us to report while you’re experiencing it happen
Do you not see it as a potential conflict of interest for a guardian to freeze and ss someone they were literally fighting a minute ago?
 

Obstinance

Well-Known Member
Muted
Do you not see it as a potential conflict of interest for a guardian to freeze and ss someone they were literally fighting a minute ago?
not when their join date is the same day as the fight and they are dropping everyone and immediately ranked at gold 3. however i never said he needed to personally SS them but surely more in general could be done then and now
 
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ThePigGang

Well-Known Member
Guardian
also i think lining out the criteria to warrant an SS would be important.
We would never make this public information if thats what your saying. We do not want to draw a line on what we find suspicious, we would rather that be a mystery for obvious reasons.

honestly just ss more? Like I know ur guys's chats are full of lets ss this ss that there is a new ocean bug there is this there is that but bro you guys said there are new guardians learning ss what is taking them 3 months to learn how to ask someone to download anydesk. If there was more screenshares I definitely think that there would be more players banned.

Obstinance made this post cause of the kalros fight we had full of cheaters, and obuth was literally there too, like there is no way he couldnt tell they were cheating.

Like sometimes Loka Staff actually does a good job on hackers but sometimes i feel like they are letting it slide cause there is no way.
he actually nailed this, we fought against pure cheaters and alters and a town that’s never won a contested conquest fight until that night. and obuth literally fought in it like whats the point in being a guardian if you tell us to report while you’re experiencing it happen
Conducting an SS is incredibly invasive, we need to be confident that we are going to find something before we SS someone. SSing more from what we already are just means SSing innocent people and invading their privacy for no reason.

I would also like to add that ALMOST ALL /reports of hacking are "x player is hacking". Sadly we can not take your word for it and just SS them, clips are a solid piece of evidence a player can provide to us if they think someone is cheating and we rarely recieve clips with hackusation reports. It also sucks because people tend to report in blind rage after dying even though x player is legit.

That being said can you guys dm fight logs and names of players you guys are hackusating from this kalros fight, preferably clips if you have any?
 

glory

Well-Known Member
Muted
punish people that recruit cheaters too, literally half of these new recruits are so blatant and no way the people recruiting them don’t know…
 

olpx

Active Member
that would make loka lose many new players due to recruiters not wanting to take the risk
But he is correct terenoca most cheaters are new players older players will most likely not cheat because they have emotional and sentimental value of loka and wouldnt risk being banned
 

Terenoca

Active Member
Slicer
But he is correct terenoca most cheaters are new players older players will most likely not cheat because they have emotional and sentimental value of loka and wouldnt risk being banned
yea but, that older players will someday quit, so we need new gens, and if we punish ppl who recruit and spend there time gettin more ppl to join the sv unfairly, loka will eventually be less played
 

Obstinance

Well-Known Member
Muted
yea but, that older players will someday quit, so we need new gens, and if we punish ppl who recruit and spend there time gettin more ppl to join the sv unfairly, loka will eventually be less played
i dont think he means to literally punish all mass recruiters. but to figure out something to put in place that will make recruiters more mindful of who they pick up and let fight for them, cheaters and alters can turn the tide of a fight which is equally as unfair
 
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