honestly this is a good point +1+1 its been a year i believe since he was banned for flying to the firestone, and i think people forget thats the reason he was banned. i get that people want to make sure a player is fit to join the community before an unban, but i think lokas community just sometimes makes it so unnecessarily difficult for people who want to play again to get unbanned. i am going to tell you something that will BLOW your mind: alot of loka players might be nice on loka and then toxic on another server. these players dont get banned, either because "it was on another server" or "i have seen their better side" or "they were having a bad day" and i think thats perfectly fair. i dont think we should apply double standards to players trying to get unbanned though. if a player is trying to get unbanned for flying to the firestone, maybe look at their history of cheating on other servers (splinian doesnt cheat). concerns like toxicity on other servers are 100 percent valid but i think people should focus on the main reason he was banned, and see how he behaves if he does get unbanned.
because people like shutting down appeals for the pure sake of shutting down appeals.
this is just my take on it though and if he does get unbanned it should be with him either being on a mute or on a last warning if he does show toxic behavior
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Splinian's Unban Appeal
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Splinian
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ive never been apart of doxxing? nor is there proofIf you go through and read his other appeals which are plentiful it's pointed out often that although he was banned for hacking, his poor behaviour also contributed massively.
Big disagree. We've unbanned plenty of players because they've made good sincere appeals. The bar is actually really low, in my opinion.
If a player is a danger to the community and there's evidence of that through doxing, targeted harassment/bullying of Lokans I can almost guarantee you some form of action will be taken or the admins will be moderately aware to look out for that player in particular.
I don't think I've ever heard staff say 'they were having a bad day' in defence of a player, players are still held to the server rules regardless.
I wouldn't call this a double standard at all. It's entirely fair to hold people who have broken the rules enough for staff intervention to a different standard.
Although a player may be banned for hacking, they still have to follow all of the rules Loka has. The only way staff can decide whether or not to approve an appeal is through the information provided by others and the appeal itself.
Maybe if he stopped doing things to be cancelled over he'd stop being cancelled.
reminder that loka staff can see deleted messages on the forums (vibin saying you were in the discord)
Splinian
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I was invited to it and as soon as I saw what it was several loka players were in that discord and left immediately as well
Perry didnt change in a month just when peopel switch up he switches up, when perry was chill with aurora his toxicity was the same but who it was direct towards isnt
That basically defines another person changing. people switching up is the same thing as another person changing. Perry changed on other people. Maybe he didn't change on everyone. But he changed on some people.
Yeah, alot of people that I know that are still unbanned were in the discord before it got shut down. But like he said alr he left and didn't spread any of the doxx's
I changed because whenever I needed help by any of my old aurora friends, they shut me down and or ganked me. Ex: I was coming to visit the Aurora Homebase as friendly as possible, just trying to see my friends again and i was met with cobwebs and swords by my old friends, like Filip, Ive known him for 2 years and he still came out to gank me. He switched up so I switched up and returned what he gave me.
I have been really unsure about this, however I think my mind has been made up. Splinian and I had multiple conversations about what the effects of his toxicity were on himself and those around him, initially he called me a "fat Jew" and I thought there was no saving him. I have had conversations with him recently and his demeanor has seemed to change completely. I remember when being in call with Splinian months ago and remembering how vulgar he was. I haven't had that feeling in a while and I have been in a few VC's with him (where I used to avoid him when possible). I think it takes a big man to admit when he's wrong and Splinian did just that, he apologized for his actions and he vowed to change them and most importantly has seemed to actually turn those words into actions. I don't know if you will get unbanned Splinian but I am extremely proud of you. Keep up the work on correcting your old tendencies when they show and treat others how you would like to be treated.
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That comes back to your statement against changing in a month. You can change in a month proved by you.
Fxqme
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your right perry never changed, hes been getting worse and worse, from beefing alliance, to friends afterwards close friends, then town members, them made a bunch of people leave bits and Aurora. it got so bad Jakeman5 made a poll if we should kick perry from the alliance, and lets just say it was not in his favor. now idk even know if i can consider perry a friend.
coolkidsupa
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+1 we've been through a million and a half appeals and I've had time to talk to Splinian personally and to say least, he has a long road ahead of him but at least he dug himself out of the dark hole he was in when he was trash-talking and being a non-contributing disrespectful human being. Me him and jake and other fellow Lokans were in a vc for multiple hours a few days back and I am sure any one of them can vouch that Splinian wasn't toxic is a complete different human than he was 6-7 months ago.
coolkidsupa
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This is completely wrong. We had your back whenever you A: team killed B: being completely disrespectful towards other alliance members C: any of your awfully out of line borderline racist " jokes " with people. We kicked you on the premises of you pissing off first toushen and goofey then con and raddus. You didn't respect them for grinding for you to waste it all in end so we kicked you. Even when we kicked you me and filip and the other leadership still decided to keep your admin in our discord because we felt that we were still " friends " and 10 minutes later you have the audacity to nuke the town discord. You can't keep victimizing yourself, we told you and guns (guns has reformed) to join Noobville as a temporary 1 week break from Aurora and you guys decide lets do the funny haha and delete every text channels EVEN THOUGH we kept all your roles as an admin. You didn't change because we bullied you, you changed because you can't accept owning up to your mistakes like Splinian did.
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aurora up now that perry gone
fr bro on god i agree with that statement :100:
holy shit english major!!! all jokes aside. i completely agree with this statement. perry is just one of those people who follows the trends. he turns his back on the people who have his back and it is backfiring against him.
I turned my back on those who turned against me, some of those may be people i dont consider friends anymore, I just change the way i act towards those people I dont consider to be my friends.
adding on to me "victimizing myself" I dont think im victimizing myself I just think that its not my fault that my old friends ganked me out for god knows what and then proceed to say that im no longer their friends and say things about me or towards me like layhey said when he died after ganking me out? Not fun to say the least and certainly not entertaining to lose friends.
at the end of the day this isnt about me, I dont think splinians reformed. Sorry for the trouble.
No you dont... ex. me, i never turned my back against you and always thought you were a great friend, until i found out that you did some pretty annoying shit. but i still didnt have a problem with you. I started having a problem with you a couple days ago when you jumped me with dnalol and proceeded to join our grinding vc and talk shit (btw prolly the worst shit talk i've ever heard ngl). yet you say you "turn my back against those who turn against me"
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