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G0mez = Victor no more.

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subys said:
Okay, im not trying to biased in all this. The optifine version and forge version didnt give you reach or anti kb. If you test out the version itself you can tell theres some what of a kb difference. g0mez didnt use any "cheats" from what 36s is saying its a simple version that anyone on the loka community could have used. Its a official released version of minecraft forge and a official version of optifine. It just happened to be these two versions that caused delayed kb. You might say this is simliar to a netlimiter or straight up using velocity but at the same time it was a released version of minecraft optifine and forge which is not bannable in any way. You are just ruining peoples REPS by saying he was a cheater/hacker. This is a version everyone in the entire world was widely avaliable to. Just because someone did a little research and found how to take lesser kb doesn't mean he cheated his way to victor. (example) So if he optimized his PC to get less input delay to be able to crit faster hes cheating because he did his research? Forge and Optifine was never a bannable offense. He did his research and found a way to take lesser kb. I'm sorry yall didnt do your research and he did? For the last time it's not a hack and its not a cheat. Its OFFICIAL RELEASED VERSION OF MINECRAFT THAT WAS ALLOWED INTO THE GAME AND HE USED IT. simple as that.

ALSO yall indirectly harassed him the chat for no reason. Yall might say you were joking but you had no reason to say that stuff "OMG g0mez you are the best", "SmiGuy material"

Half of you guys were slicers. Grow up why are you whinning to him about him just make an official post instead of indirectly bothering the guy.
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A. i NEVER said it gave anti kb or reach
B. "It just happened to be these two versions that caused delayed kb" INTENT. HE KNEW IT WOULD MESS W HIS KB.
C. " You are just ruining peoples REPS by saying he was a cheater/hacker." quoted from my text- "(HE DIDNT HACK, HE CHEATED)." he cheated. yes. I have a definition for u incase u are misunderstood: "act DISHONESTLY or UNFAIRLY in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination."
D. "Its OFFICIAL RELEASED VERSION OF MINECRAFT THAT WAS ALLOWED INTO THE GAME AND HE USED IT" So is badlion, Lunar etc (not allowed because Lunar Alledgedly reduces ur kb) (but that was debunked but still the reason why its NOT ALLOWED ON LOKA.) So please, Reconsider your position.
 
Lampp_ said:
Assuming these claims are true, I think at least a victor title being removed would be an appropriate punishment, although skirting the rules with game versions.
you haven't even see the difference
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Assuming these claims of cheating by using advantageous version combinations are true, that would be skirting the rules.

Please learn to read.
 
-1 Personally, I think even if he did use an unfair advantage, In the forums post there was nothing in the rules that mentioned forge. At the end of the day he played by the rules and won. You say he cheated in a tournament but if there are no rules against it how can it be called "cheating"

imo, g0mez shouldn't be stripped of his 'Victor' title due to the fact that it wasn't mentioned in the rules of the tournament.
 
Bro this is cringe as hell and biased. Just because dylans your friend you make a thread to strip him of minecraft sword because someones made he didnt get it? Honestly its just cringe. No where in the rules does it say this isnt allowed unless you can pinpoint a message where a sentry or guardian has stated that this is cheating. Gomez woulda won either way and if you think knockback is why he had an advantage start fighting players with higher ping and learn to counter it. Its not his fault yall dont know how to counter high ping. Get better ez + that being said theres no direct proof it does any of the stuff you claim its just correlation or as joven said a placebo LMFAO. if someone who had naturally higher kb bc of ping or sumn would yall complain about that too?? This seems childish and petty and it’s straight correlation unless anyone can prove it actually does what you claim. Lmao. Just cringe.
 
36s said:
A. i NEVER said it gave anti kb or reach
B. "It just happened to be these two versions that caused delayed kb" INTENT. HE KNEW IT WOULD MESS W HIS KB.
C. " You are just ruining peoples REPS by saying he was a cheater/hacker." quoted from my text- "(HE DIDNT HACK, HE CHEATED)." he cheated. yes. I have a definition for u incase u are misunderstood: "act DISHONESTLY or UNFAIRLY in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination."
D. "Its OFFICIAL RELEASED VERSION OF MINECRAFT THAT WAS ALLOWED INTO THE GAME AND HE USED IT" So is badlion, Lunar etc (not allowed because Lunar Alledgedly reduces ur kb) (but that was debunked but still the reason why its NOT ALLOWED ON LOKA.) So please, Reconsider your position.
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A. It's not a kb modifier he admitted to it changing his kb yes but it didnt completely change it to where it would make him take no kb thats what i was applying.

B. Finding these two versions were completely by accident. Get Cryptite in here to check out these versions he can confirm that it decreases your kb by the bare minimal and before you say "SEE THE BARE MINIMAL" Dylan fights laggers/non laggers everyday I see that man he always has a strat against a persons playstyle. All this did was delay his KB. Dylan knew how to counter that right? Why is he complaining about it now just because he lost.

C. What are you missing about this. No offense im not calling out of all BITS/COV but they are the only ones complaining about this. I know if you guys had found out about this you guys wouldn't say shit about it until we made a response. Yall get upset over a guy who "semi (even thats too much) changes his kb with a version which is ALLOWED ON LOKA but is perfectly fine with someone who has the same kb without using the version. Like just play the same against them? It's not like its giving you the biggest advantage ever. You guys know how to fight laggers right? fight him the same LOL.

D. Badlion is BANNED on loka
Lunar doesn't even let you log in
but forge allows you in and theres nothing in the rules that say Optifine and Forge isn't allowed so...

Wait til Cryptite says something about the versions if he does get involved. He doesn't think its cheating then there you go.
 
Karemuz said:
Bro this is cringe as hell and biased. Just because dylans your friend you make a thread to strip him of minecraft sword because someones made he didnt get it? Honestly its just cringe. No where in the rules does it say this isnt allowed unless you can pinpoint a message where a sentry or guardian has stated that this is cheating. Gomez woulda won either way and if you think knockback is why he had an advantage start fighting players with higher ping and learn to counter it. Its not his fault yall dont know how to counter high ping. Get better ez + that being said theres no direct proof it does any of the stuff you claim its just correlation or as joven said a placebo LMFAO. if someone who had naturally higher kb bc of ping or sumn would yall complain about that too?? This seems childish and petty and it’s straight correlation unless anyone can prove it actually does what you claim. Lmao. Just cringe.
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wow. "cringe" is the main argument here okay. well to address the small portion of this paragraph that was a SOMEWHAT decent arguement,
A. "if u knockback is why he had an advantage start fighting players with higher ping and learn to counter it." ???? why is this a viable solution at all? first off, it wasnt DELAYED KB which is what high ping players get, it was LESS KB. "joven said a placebo" this was him mocking staff when they said regedits were "placebo" "naturally higher kb bc of ping or sumn would yall complain about that too?" "NATURALLY" YES BC USING STUFF LIKE NETLIMITER TO GET HIGHER PING IS BANNED ON LOKA LMFAO. If it was natural nobody could say anything but its the fact it isnt which is why im here.
 
subys said:
A. It's not a kb modifier he admitted to it changing his kb yes but it didnt completely change it to where it would make him take no kb thats what i was applying.

B. Finding these two versions were completely by accident. Get Cryptite in here to check out these versions he can confirm that it decreases your kb by the bare minimal and before you say "SEE THE BARE MINIMAL" Dylan fights laggers/non laggers everyday I see that man he always has a strat against a persons playstyle. All this did was delay his KB. Dylan knew how to counter that right? Why is he complaining about it now just because he lost.

C. What are you missing about this. No offense im not calling out of all BITS/COV but they are the only ones complaining about this. I know if you guys had found out about this you guys wouldn't say shit about it until we made a response. Yall get upset over a guy who "semi (even thats too much) changes his kb with a version which is ALLOWED ON LOKA but is perfectly fine with someone who has the same kb without using the version. Like just play the same against them? It's not like its giving you the biggest advantage ever. You guys know how to fight laggers right? fight him the same LOL.

D. Badlion is BANNED on loka

Lunar doesn't even let you log in

but forge allows you in and theres nothing in the rules that say Optifine and Forge isn't allowed so...

Wait til Cryptite says something about the versions if he does get involved. He doesn't think its cheating then there you go.
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"but is perfectly fine with someone who has the same kb without using the version" so if I use reach hacks JUST TO GET THE MAX BLOCK HIT EVERY TIME is okay??? No its still cheating, regardless of if other players have enough skill to actually get max block hits.
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Badlion is BANNED on loka

Lunar doesn't even let you log in

but forge allows you in and theres nothing in the rules that say Optifine and Forge isn't allowed so..."

Theres a reason everything gets banned. Someone uses it or someone checks and theyre like "oh yeah this is unfair". Cryptite doesn't automatically know what is and isnt fair. He figures it out by quite literally reports like these.
 
Tedzi_ said:
-1 Personally, I think even if he did use an unfair advantage, In the forums post there was nothing in the rules that mentioned forge. At the end of the day he played by the rules and won. You say he cheated in a tournament but if there are no rules against it how can it be called "cheating"

imo, g0mez shouldn't be stripped of his 'Victor' title due to the fact that it wasn't mentioned in the rules of the tournament.
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so we're supposed to name every type of cheating? like thats absurd come on. You can't honestly expect us to put "NO CHEATING: SUCHAS, FORGE V123, OPTIFINEV123, NETLIMITER ETC. like come on. It all fits into one big group, which is cheating.
 
Attempting to give yourself a competitive advantage is the problem here. Everyone should be on a level playing field. G0mez knew what he was doing. I think that is the main problem here. It doesn't matter if it wasn't disallowed, if he knew that there was a kb difference then he should have reported it rather than abusing it.
 
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36s said:
"but is perfectly fine with someone who has the same kb without using the version" so if I use reach hacks JUST TO GET THE MAX BLOCK HIT EVERY TIME is okay??? No its still cheating, regardless of if other players have enough skill to actually get max block hits.
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Badlion is BANNED on loka

Lunar doesn't even let you log in

but forge allows you in and theres nothing in the rules that say Optifine and Forge isn't allowed so..."

Theres a reason everything gets banned. Someone uses it or someone checks and theyre like "oh yeah this is unfair". Cryptite doesn't automatically know what is and isnt fair. He figures it out by quite literally reports like these.
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So let him figure it out then? Like i was saying earlier g0mez played by the written rules.
Allowed Forge and competed in the tournament.
Beat everyone and came out victorious

Lemme give you an example 36s.
If I get more FPS than someone else and it allows me to fight better does that mean im cheating because i have a better set up than him?

Is g0mez cheating because he used a version that everyone had access to and played on it.

Everyone can buy a new setup for the extra frames but its not required but it does help right?
Everyone can download the version to help but isn't required to use that extra version right? (Before you mention cheats because i know its gonna be brought up. Cheats are bannable Forge isn't simple as that.)
 
36s said:
wow. "cringe" is the main argument here okay. well to address the small portion of this paragraph that was a SOMEWHAT decent arguement,
A. "if u knockback is why he had an advantage start fighting players with higher ping and learn to counter it." ???? why is this a viable solution at all? first off, it wasnt DELAYED KB which is what high ping players get, it was LESS KB. "joven said a placebo" this was him mocking staff when they said regedits were "placebo" "naturally higher kb bc of ping or sumn would yall complain about that too?" "NATURALLY" YES BC USING STUFF LIKE NETLIMITER TO GET HIGHER PING IS BANNED ON LOKA LMFAO. If it was natural nobody could say anything but its the fact it isnt which is why im here.
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a. Cringe is the main point because this whole thread is cringe as hell. You went out of your way to try and find discord screenshots and write a thread because you lost a minecraft tournament. The main person you tried to argue it was unfair to was dylan who hasnt said a SINGLE THING in this whole thread thats why its cringe bro. Youre so salty you lost youre trying to beef with someone because they’re better than you on a blockgame. b. As someone who plays with higher ping I can tell you its both delayed kb and less kb try hitting me with 300 ping standing and I take barely any knock-back, not delayed. If I beat you would you try and use my discord messages against me to get me in trouble over a minecraft tournament?
c. The main point of my argument is that while you can argue it gave him less kb but theres no direct proof of that? Since youre so committed to given Gomez a hacker rep download the same versions yourself and try and perfectly recreate it to prove yourself it gives delayed kb. Whether or not Joven was joking it is quite funny to me as this is clear to most people who arent paranoid over minecraft tournaments that this is extremely likely to be a placebo affect. You guys saw some ss of gomez talking about delayed kb and ran with it not considering the fact it could very well be a placebo affect and until you can clearly prove otherwise thats all it is. Take a walk and get some fresh air and stop tryna ruin someones rep because you lost some minecraft fights or better yet if you’re so set on that his prove it by actually testing it insread of claiming it does something you have no clear proof of.
 
36s said:
so we're supposed to name every type of cheating? like thats absurd come on. You can't honestly expect us to put "NO CHEATING: SUCHAS, FORGE V123, OPTIFINEV123, NETLIMITER ETC. like come on. It all fits into one big group, which is cheating.
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But it's not cheating just a mc version
 
36s said:
so we're supposed to name every type of cheating? like thats absurd come on. You can't honestly expect us to put "NO CHEATING: SUCHAS, FORGE V123, OPTIFINEV123, NETLIMITER ETC. like come on. It all fits into one big group, which is cheating.
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but its not cheating, "It all fits into one big group" is a bad arguement, since there is NOTHING about it on the post

and just what suby stated above, its not even cheating
 
subys said:
So let him figure it out then? Like i was saying earlier g0mez played by the written rules.
Allowed Forge and competed in the tournament.
Beat everyone and came out victorious

Lemme give you an example 36s.
If I get more FPS than someone else and it allows me to fight better does that mean im cheating because i have a better set up than him?

Is g0mez cheating because he used a version that everyone had access to and played on it.

Everyone can buy a new setup for the extra frames but its not required but it does help right?
Everyone can download the version to help but isn't required to use that extra version right? (Before you mention cheats because i know its gonna be brought up. Cheats are bannable Forge isn't simple as that.)
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"If I get more FPS than someone else and it allows me to fight better does that mean im cheating because i have a better set up than him?" Not at all. however using net limiter even though everyone has access to it also is against the rules. its about CONTEXT.
 
after hearing what everyone has stated

if it is bannable by loka rules, then he should be stripped of his title.

if it is NOT bannable by loka rules, he should be allowed to keep his title
 
When Mardogaming was found using "dip" from a screen-share made by Skuhoo, the Victor rewards were given to the second-place team and Mardogaming was banned. Once Mardogaming was found innocent, he was unbanned.

This is the only time someone was stripped of the Victor title and the rewards of a 2v2 tournament.

The video for the tournament:
Recorded before the screen-share.
 
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