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G0mez = Victor no more.

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Here are the rules that were given to us:
- No Debuff Potions or Tipped Arrows
- No bows with infinity (32 arrows max per round)
-No Crossbows
- No Firestones
- No Enderpearls
- No Thorns
- Host of the tournament will decide whether a fight will be redone if a player lags out or disconnects
-No KB swords
-No Turtle Pots
-No Axes
-No Shields


Now, I do not condone cheating as it is a way of undermining skill and hard work under fixed conditions, and I presume if you were to get him on something it would be the ddos "joke" he made. However it appears as if it wasn't so much as cheating but in fact a loophole. It seems to go without saying that you can't hack for the tournaments, but what he did wasn't hacking nor stated in the rules. I say let him keep it and just make a rule against it.

"If you ain't first, you're last!" - Ricky Bobby
You can't really tell people that they can or can't use clients as a tournament host this is stupid lmao

Just throwing this out there, how is using a texture pack that provides an advantage (nemesis) any different than a performance mod that does the same (optifine) since they both are allowed on the server
@subys any opinions?
 
also g0mez lost to ronin in the champion fight which means the INSANE BROKEN FORGE OPTIFINE ANTI KB COMBINATION wasnt major enough to become unbeatable, as we all know a large portion of potpvp is your aim, repots and hotkeys knockback is just another factor that isnt as important as the others!
 
also g0mez lost to ronin in the champion fight which means the INSANE BROKEN FORGE OPTIFINE ANTI KB COMBINATION wasnt major enough to become unbeatable, as we all know a large portion of potpvp is your aim, repots and hotkeys knockback is just another factor that isnt as important as the others!
certainly is as important as the others but aiiiight

BESIDES THE POINT THE VERSION DOESNT DO ANYTHING IT PLACEBO.
 
certainly is as important as the others but aiiiight

BESIDES THE POINT THE VERSION DOESNT DO ANYTHING IT PLACEBO.
well i agree it isnt fun fighting someone without KB but like ur calling a minor change in knockback from g0mez hacks meanwhile we have alot of ppl literally not taking kb and the excuse is "their ping is 130 bro they just lag" when its easy to tell they literally cheat, and knowing the current state of loka no one will ever get screenshared so loka is infested with borderline blatant cheaters that get regularly caught on other servers using cheats but on loka theyre suddenly legit and will never get ssed even tho they do the same thing on loka as the other servers, i guess its just time to learn how to counter people using hacks! (or quit)
 
well i agree it isnt fun fighting someone without KB but like ur calling a minor change in knockback from g0mez hacks meanwhile we have alot of ppl literally not taking kb and the excuse is "their ping is 130 bro they just lag" when its easy to tell they literally cheat, and knowing the current state of loka no one will ever get screenshared so loka is infested with borderline blatant cheaters that get regularly caught on other servers using cheats but on loka theyre suddenly legit and will never get ssed even tho they do the same thing on loka as the other servers, i guess its just time to learn how to counter people using hacks! (or quit)
you sure they aren't just a little laggy?

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well i agree it isnt fun fighting someone without KB but like ur calling a minor change in knockback from g0mez hacks meanwhile we have alot of ppl literally not taking kb and the excuse is "their ping is 130 bro they just lag" when its easy to tell they literally cheat, and knowing the current state of loka no one will ever get screenshared so loka is infested with borderline blatant cheaters that get regularly caught on other servers using cheats but on loka theyre suddenly legit and will never get ssed even tho they do the same thing on loka as the other servers, i guess its just time to learn how to counter people using hacks! (or quit)
again, people are just throwing their opinion down without reading. i said in my forums he CHEATED not HACKED. and yes casper, people have different play styles. just cuz ronald won doesn’t mean it wasn’t unfair. even if this was debunked i’m talking hypothetically now, you can’t just say cuz ronald won it should be allowed that’s totally unfair.
 
I know there's going to be some bias.
I'd like to have everyone here put themselves in Dylhn's shoes. Practicing hours for this tournament and playing with nothing but skill on his side.
1. G0mez also practiced for hours so im confused as to what point your trying to make.

2. Last I checked Forge and Optifine is not considered cheating.

https://lokamc.com/forums/index.php?threads/approved-legal-client-side-mods.4845/

3. He cleared an SS by Sku right after the fight.

Quite funny to see that second place is this desperate for a title lmao.
 
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Okay, so before you read my objection to this post, please note me if I am wrong.


So, using optifine is allowed, and using forge is allowed. There is no rule against specific forge version to gain an advantage. This is like saying that players cannot use optifabric or sodium to get an advantage of frames. Getting an advantage through a client or addition to minecraft isnt fully vanilla. I can see why you would be mad at g0mez for reducing his kb, but would you be mad at him for getting an advantage for more fps? I can see why using an anti kb hack isnt allowed, but there is no rule against him using a specific forge version. There is no proof of him using a hack (that I am aware of). Dylhn had the oppertunity to use everything that g0mez had, but he didn't, and that is his fault. I think that g0mez should keep his title, and his sword.
 
also +1

While its quite clear that g0mez is very good at the block game, almost the entire server attending the tourney was surprised to see him win. And most were not surprised in the "wow he was the underdog and he beat the more experienced player" way, but in the "lol how the hell did he win/was he cheating" way. This is backed up by a large majority of people in VC and chat asking for him to be screenshared immediately after the win. Yea we know he wasn't hacking, and maybe the "cheating" he did was in somewhat of a gray area, but he didn't do it on accident. Rather it's pretty clear that he intended to use these versions of forge and optifine to give himself an advantage. It's impossible to measure the advantage that he actually gained, but that's not really the point. g0mez taking advantage of these versions to finesse and give himself what he believed to be a competitive advantage is warranting of some sort of repercussion(s). Not to mention all the others points brought up in this thread.

Now whether g0mez loses his title and sword, or even has to do a rematch with dylhn, is ultimately up to staff and the tournament organizers.
 
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I'm not gonna say much here just wondering if anybody actually has any conclusive evidence that the particular versions of forge and optifine actually reduced kb or really granted any advantage whatsoever
 
Hello Loka Community. For those of you who are aware, G0mez cheated during the tournament by using a optifine and forge version that HE KNEW would reduce his KB giving him an advantage above others (it essentially a different type of net limiter). Before I start my argument, I know there's going to be some bias.
I'd like to have everyone here put themselves in Dylhn's shoes. Practicing hours for this tournament and playing with nothing but skill on his side.
Another thing, his Optifine and forge were different from the main community's versions. He downloaded these messed up versions KNOWING it altered his KB in a GOOD way.
As a Noobville tournament host I come here saddened and disappointed that I have to do this. We are asking the staff team for G0mez to be stripped of his "Victor" title along with the lored sword that was given to him. We know that during the Noobville 1v1 tournament g0mez knowingly tried to gain an advantage over his competition by using specific launchers and mods. He also told a member of Loka, Ksleep to "ddos lurnn, if u lag out you get disqualified." Now I would normally take things like this as a joke except for the fact he mentioned he would "get disqualified" if he got hit offline. He has admitted multiple times in private and public that he used these corrupt versions of Optifine and Forge. We believe that Dylhn should obtain the champion sword from g0mez as he finished 2nd place. We have overwhelming proof of his attempts to gain an advantage and think its time everyone can give their opinion.
g0mez's point was "everyone has the same opportunity to do it" ok everyone can also hack doesn't mean its allowed. I'm talking context here. He cheated in a TOURNAMENT. (HE DIDNT HACK, HE CHEATED).
Linked below, are a bunch of the screenshots I've seen from this tournament drama, some may not be relevant to the conversation.
And please, if you disagree feel free to send me a REAL reason as to why g0mez should keep his sword.
not just "lol that tournament was ages ago" or "lol just use it too" or "lol just download a big file it'll do the same thing". no, it wont. U suffer the BAD things of lagging when u do that not JUST the good things, which G0mez was abusing.

https://gyazo.com/41cd07597cc3725c14f7d7db05816628
https://gyazo.com/f8565ed2ed7396066aa58fc91c9268bb
https://i.gyazo.com/thumb/1200/56adbef77bdcfb0b365336852d6e74b3-png.jpg
^ These screenshots
I'm not gonna say much here just wondering if anybody actually has any conclusive evidence that the particular versions of forge and optifine actually reduced kb or really granted any advantage whatsoever
 
^ These screenshots
doesn't prove they actually do anything just that Gomez thinks they do which doesn't look good for him but I think there's a pretty high chance everyone's just arguing over a placebo
 
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